Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

The main argument against unions is that no on respects them (except the union members), and most people feel like unions enable employees to be lazy and do the bare minimum while keeping high performers from getting ahead.

Part of the reason union people need unions is because no other company is going to hire you knowing you were part of a union; companies don't want lazy, unmotivated and entitled people.

But hey, if you're happy being in a union and not embarrassed to tell people you're part of it then good for you!

No your right that doesn't make sense...."if someone has a person who does their yard work"..."helped build and maintained your yard" But I'm not earning money from my yard, If i did, I would have treat the yard caretaker appropriately. The caretakers hard work, and dedication is earning me money. That does make sense.

Your right that the Union Management work environment is horribly toxic to put it nicely. There is a lot of resentment among managers toward the Union workers, This resentment builds to the point of the managers only recourse....Discipline. Managers way overstep there power authority if only to hurt the Union employee out of their own frustration with their status in the Company.

Who gets hurt in the crossfire.........the Customer.....Now that makes no sense.

Where are the details.......

I don't have guaranteed employment but i do have great pay and great healthcare coverage. I wouldn't say you have 100% job security, no one does, but that's a whole other argument. I would not want to be in a union or have your job. Your job atmosphere sucks, the whole us against them is ridiculous, managers always trying to find something you guys did wrong, etc. and to me it is not worth working that way. I wouldn't say i built this company, i contribute to the company to which i get compensated nicely for. With your way of thinking, if someone has a person who does their yard work, the worker should have 100% job security with a pension since they helped build and maintained your yard... and since you make 150,000 a year with a pension it should be you who supports them... doesn't make a lot of sense does it?

Go back on strike already, what are you doing sitting here bitching about it? get off your a-- right now, and head down to your picket line. I dare you. Go picket already and show me how real you are about this. If not shut the Phuck up.

where are the details, oh thats right Mcadams,Shelton and Perez are still sucking each others cocks!

Yeah, where are the f---in details already!!!!!!

If its such a good deal where are the details? I feel like I'm dealing with a used car dealer with my union!