Everyone already knows that's what's going to happen. Why do we have to lose another weeks pay?
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They need to show they earned their big paychecks first.
"Aren't they Pro-Union, Anti-Business?"
LOL. The Democrats washed their hands from organized labor four decades ago. Read the report of McGovern's Commission. That hasn't stopped them from taking contributions from unions, though.
Democrats simply represent a different batch of special interest groups from Republicans, that's all there is to it. Some of these groups have been playing both sides of the fence for decades now, but that's a matter for a different discussion altogether.
Unions have next to no friends left in the politics. That won't change until they reinvent themselves and start from scratch. It can be done, but not overnight and definitely not during this strike, even on JIT basis.
Op, how did you get a raw deal in mediation? The Democrats and Obama were running the show in 2011/12, aren't they Pro-Union, Anti-Business?
The union's timing was poor in 2011, and they missed an opportunity to win wide public support for fighting for pensions, as opposed to getting into a pissing contest over contributing for health care costs.
If that had been a long strike, they would have won hands down because of the storms. There was just no way the managers and contractors could have handled that.
So they came back too soon, aimed to low and played too rough, foe too little.
It looks like we have all learned a great deal since then. This is not 2011 and the Union is ready and the company is not. The company was barely ready last August. Then they fired 8,000 managers and sold off many more to Frontier, and use all of that money and continue to borrow more, to pisss away on changing the company from a Telecom and Internet giant into a little wireless ad company. WTF???
So now the union is ready and the company is not - and this manager is digging it,
"The last three strikes the union got nothing for their membership"
Seriously? By going back three strikes we're well into previous century/millennium when the VZ as we know it now didn't even exist...and wireless was in diapers on this continent altogether. Check your facts before posting nonsense.
As for the mediation, it got these unions the worst contract ever (2011/12) in most members' opinion the last time around, so little wonder that they would not look forward to it...
The wife and hotel joke come again. Hello. Do you guys have anything new to talk?
Me and the OP's wife certainly hope he stays at the hotel.
op is either another management troll or VZ Teamer scab. Get back into your lonely hotel room and stare at the wall you spineless piece of $hi#!
OP
Agree
Both sides should come to an agreement on the two or three issues that are important to them then accept mediation for the rest if they can't be resolved.
i can't believe we are where we are after 10 months of bargaining.
@H0XRL1L-szl but you are a nobody, so what you say really does not matter.
@qwa It will never happen!
Verizon will desolve the union. The last three strikes the union got nothing for their membership.
CWA District 1 NY/NE Regional Bargaining Report #51
April 19, 2016
The CWA District 1/IBEW Local 2213 and IBEW New England Regional Committees met today at the Rye town Hilton.
We informed the Company bargaining committee members that Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam had been out to a few picket lines talking to striking members.
We advised them that McAdam made the following incorrect statements to our members:
1.The stuff about taking job security away is "B.S."
2.Medical benefits and wages are settled.
3.Only DSL calls are being routed to the Philippines
At first the Company said that they heard that McAdam had been to picket lines but they were unfamiliar with what he actually said. (CEO goes to picket line, articulates company bargaining position to striking workers, but the company bargaining team is unaware of what he is saying?) Then they argued that what McAdam said didn't matter anyway because their proposal speaks for itself. (CEO's bargaining position doesn't matter; he's only the CEO). Since the Company had not seen the tape of the Syracuse encounter, we showed it to them so they could hear their CEO making these statements. The Company had no explanation to offer after viewing the tape.
We then had a heated discussion regarding transfers.
The Union gave examples that show that the company already has a great deal of flexibility on in-state transfers and that the Company routinely misuses that flexibility at the expense of our members. The Union pointed out that over the term of the last contract the Company permanently transferred thousands of workers and also temporarily transferred thousands more workers throughout New York State. When the Union asked the Company for information on the numbers of temporary transfers they told us that they don't keep track of that. (Verizon doesn't know where their employees are working - Really?)
We also discussed the Company's Article 8 proposal and the Company was unsure on how this proposal would affect their employees.
We asked the Company if they had anything to address our needs - they said No.
The Company has not moved off of any of their retrogressive proposals.
Sooner or later the company will get the message: Our members are united in the fight for good jobs. We are NOT backing down. If they didn't know it before yesterday, 8000 strikers and their allies marching in the streets of Manhattan should have convinced them. Yesterday was incredible-a terrific job done by all the locals. Many members are saying it was the best rally they could ever remember!
Picket lines are strong everywhere. We are hitting the Wireless stores hard. We are getting internal, reliable reports from Wireless stores that sales are plummeting. We are keeping customers out. Keep up the good work.
CWA and IBEW are showing the way for the country. As Bernie Sanders told 8500 supporters in Queens last night: "These men and women on strike at Verizon are fighting for every working person in America!" Keep up the great work!
goingback
I think Verizon management will eventually have their A-HA moment, and give in to the demands of the union. It may be weeks, it may be months but I am quite certain this will all work out.