Thread regarding Corinthian Colleges Inc. layoffs

Anonymous82457 : Wait, WE'RE the taxpayer leaches? Oh, I get it. Sure, we are well educated, working members of society, but a lot of the money to pay us comes from financial aid, right? So EVERYONE who works at ANY college in ANY position, as well as ANYONE who works in the public sector, and even most hospital workers, are ALL leeches on society? But LaTonya lived off of taxpayer money for four years because she didn't feel like being a contributing adult, even though most students at her school have no problem managing full-time work and attendance, but she's NOT a leech? That slovenly, stupid, lazy undesirable is...what? A victim? Methinks you want to see your own failures in life as "someone else's fault." Are you a substandard human as well? Do you really relate to LaTonya more than you do to educated, responsible adults? I'm guessing then that you are CK again, having a freaky temper tantrum that you don't want to own up to. I can see why - your life hasn't been very impressive, has it?

Wondering who here WOULD actually pay $900 a month for the rest of their lives for a POS degree from this place? It's all well and good for you taxpayer leeches to recommend she does it, but if it was you getting the bills would you really pay that? Would you pay 20% the rest of your life for a shitty CCI degree? What about 10% the rest of your entire life?

Holy Crap, my college is no longer in the exact same place where I attended!! I might have to order transcripts from a different location!! I might have to work with Career Services over the phone!! I think I just hit the F***ING JACKPOT!!!!! Whoo Hoo -- I just won the HILLBILLY LOTTERY!!!!!

My, my, my. So we have Everest students "refusing" to pay back their loans, do we? Trust me, after years in default management, I know our students as well as their poor, frustrated instructors do. Let's recap what we get -- students go to colleges in tiers, based upon their intelligence, level of academic competency, and general character and wherewithal. So we start with top tier (Ivy League, Stanford, etc), then move on down the traditional college rankings (including both public and private non-profits) to the basically open admission state colleges. After that is community colleges, then the career colleges (proprietary) come in. There is a whole new set of tiers for proprietary, starting with the high-end (U of P), and finally landing at the very bottom, the lowest of the low - Everest College. All we need to do is look at the major career college chains and view their ads. When and where do they play these ads? Trust me, there is no career college more bottom-feeding than we are. Ghetto dude says "bitch - what you waitin' fo? make a call and you ain't got to do anythin' else!" that plays during Jerry Springer. So we have to dumb down the curriculum (I've heard nothing can be over a 6th grade reading level) and pressure instructors to pass the students through anyway. Some still don't make it, usually because the simple act of showing up on campus once every two weeks is too strenuous for them. Placement bends over backwards lining up interviews for the grads, most of which they totally blow. When they do get hired, their poor work ethic, communication, and people skills get them fired pretty quickly. Instead of seeing this as a valuable (and, yes, costly) life experience, many of these idiots decide that they are now "victims" of something, and will refuse to pay their taxpayer provided loans "out of principle." There's nothing new here. Honestly, you guys at the campuses did your best with them. Sure, the execs were complicit in this tax dollar draining scheme, but the students were no victims. If they applied themselves, they learned from excellent instructors, and had much more hand holding and assistance than they would have at a CC. If they failed, they were the ones to blame.

Wanting to take advantage of what law? The "I finished my degree and got a job in the field but I STILL don't feel like paying back my taxpayer funded loans" law?!? Good luck with that lady!

Ha Ha - read this! "Heiney recently began working as a home-health-care nurse—although, she said, “only after a five-hour interview explaining why my school doesn’t reflect my knowledge or patient care.” Really? A home health care agency spent five hours interviewing her? And the interviewer's concern was the particular school she went to, even after she had miraculously (according to her) passed the certification exam? Sorry, nothing this idiot says is credible. Interesting, though, that it looks like she actually finished the program AND got a job in the field but still refuses to repay the taxpayers for the money she used for education and to live on. What a stupid, slovenly social undesirable she must be.

Anonymous82202: Camden Kid, please stop writing things like "No one officially representing Corinthian has come forward and said otherwise" on our board. This place is NOT for you. We KNOW how our Admissions departments operate, and most of them are above board. This is OUR forum. If you want to rant and rage about things you have no knowledge of, go back to your blog. If its compelling, people will choose to go there and read your ramblings. My guess is you've tried that, nobody came, and you're desperate for attention. Please do what all of the other social misfits do - go to a dive bar, get drunk, and hope you get a floozy for the night before they're all taken.

I agree with the conclusion of 081 regarding the veracity of the writer's claims. However, I wanted to disagree slightly about the environment as a whole.

While I don't doubt that some Everest campuses around the country have misled and mistreated students, the one in Grand Rapids has a reasonable reputation--certainly inferior to a community college, but it's one of the few options in Michigan where you could become an LPN in less than 3-4 years (community colleges in Michigan have ladder programs in nursing with a solid 2 years of pre-requisites, along with long waiting lists that can add as much as 2 years onto the process). This was why my wife decided to attend. She is a member of what will be the final class to graduate from that campus, meaning that she has had to deal with shrinking resources beyond what the writer of this story faced.

Despite teachers being shuffled around, etc., my wife has yet to have a teacher simply read from the book. In fact, she goes on and on about a couple of the remaining teachers who are exceptionally dynamic, despite the venom they receive from some of the other students (related to the teach out). I think that this person should have occasionally paid attention in class, and they might have realized this wasn't the case--assuming they believe anything they wrote, anyway.

In fact, my wife actually interacted with this person on more than a couple of occasions. She describes her as one of the more unpleasant people she's met while at Everest. From the sound of things, she came up with the idea to demand a refund about two weeks before her class graduated as a way of paying for her African vacation. This was several months after the "open" period for refunds that was part of the Operating Agreement with the Department of Education (the law she cited shouldn't apply to my knowledge, since she had implicitly accepted the teach oit by continuing to attend and was able to complete her program).

Actually, while no one forced them, as in took a gun to their head, they were being strong-armed by hard-core salespeople, at least that's what several of the states and the DOE have said. No one officially representing Corinthian has come forward and said otherwise.

@ Camden Kid - you do realize the vast majority of the responsibility is on the students. No one forced them to sign up for classes regardless of the sorry stories we read about. Now the lies and deception on behalf of CCI is another issue which may have contributed but the responsibility is on the students who signed up for their education. BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

081 is absolutely correct.

OP - Did you read the linked story? It IS about the debt stikers. The author dentifies herself as part of the Corinthian 15. Reading comprehension: D.

Hmmmm, she was at the Grand Rapids Everest. It was "shuttered" was it CK? That's not what the Zenith site says: "Zenith Education Group is pleased that our purchase of more than 50 campuses from Corinthian Colleges, Inc. (CCi) has enabled tens of thousands of students to complete their degrees on campuses that would have otherwise closed.

As part of this purchase agreement, Zenith has taken over management oversight of 12 campuses that will be transitioned to “teach out” status — a process to close these schools once every student who is currently enrolled and wants to complete their program has done so. The decision to “teach out” these campuses was part of a previously reached agreement between CCi and the U.S. Department of Education. Under the terms of our agreement with CCi, we are assuming responsibility for the completion of the “teach out” process.

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Mallory Heiney (great name BTW) -- Camden Kid says if they take everything you've got, you can share his Mom's basement with him. He's got lots and lots and lots of brilliant ideas to talk at you about! Bring lingerie...

Keep your heads up, Corinthian Avengers! As you say, "some of the greatest human rights movements in history were launched by the small acts of a few individuals. After voting in the 1872 national election, Susan B. Anthony was arrested and convicted of “illegal voting” while fighting for her right to vote. It took until 1920 for women to receive the right to vote. In 1955, Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on a bus. This soon led to the revolutionary Montgomery bus boycott." Before you know it you will be successful and we'll just decide enough is enough with student loans. I honestly can't imagine any other way this will go...except of course for being totally ignored by 99.999% of the American public.

Oh wow, CK, this is priceless! Did you write this for her? Ha ha! Anyway, let me discuss my favorite section: "Classes consisted mostly of teachers reading aloud from books. After I earned my degree, I did not have the knowledge I needed to pass the state licensing exam. I eventually passed it by spending hours researching the test questions online and watching YouTube videos." So, why do you think the teachers read out loud to the class? Was it because they couldn't think of anything more interesting (for the students AND themselves) to do in a classroom, or because the students were to lazy to read or engage? And then my absolute favorite part! Mallory didn't have the education required to pass her stringent licensing exam (why doesn't it say she tried and failed?), but was able to after TWO HOURS of Googling and watching YouTube?!? You people have your heads so far up your asses that everything that you put out just comes across as whining. Maybe your little "movement" could find someone with actual work experience to write these press releases?

And you're not anonymous, cuz we know you're Camden Kid.