Thread regarding Qualcomm Inc. layoffs

Samsung S6 Also Drops Qualcomm LTE Modem on AT&T phones?

So I guess some of us were right afterall. Samsung not only dropped the app processor from the S6 completely, but also dropped Qualcomm's LTE modem chip for AT&T S6/S6 edge, using their own 333 modem. Wow. This is a big deal. Because it means Samsung was able to pass certification here in the U.S. and pass carrier approval for one of the largest providers for their own LTE modem chip, which is a pretty remarkable achievement considering many of the previous LTE contenders weren't even able to get this far. Also, it's also a pretty big game to try this in the U.S. market on such a large carrier. If successful, this is really going to bite, as they use more of their own chips from their internal LSI group for next generation phones. The bundled deal that QC use to offer for app processor+LTE modem+connectivity is starting to fall apart. Just 2-3 years ago QC was king of the hill and the rest of the chip industry was in the tanks. Now, seems like the rest of the industry have caught up, and QC apart has caught a cold, just like the stock price. How volatile tech can be.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-in---Galaxy-S6---S6-edge-carry-Samsung-Shannon-LTE-modems-Wolfson-DACs_id67880

Other notable items from the GS6 and GS6 edge's components list include a Wolfson WM1840 digital audio converter, as well as assorted chips from Broadcom, Skyworks, Avago, Maxim, and STMicro. The full list is available below:

Samsung Exynos 7420 SoC

Samsung K3RG3G30MM-DGCH 3Gb LPDDR4 SDRAM and Samsung KLUBG4G1BD 32GB NAND Flash

Samsung Shannon 333 Modem, Shannon 533 PMIC, Samsung S2MPS15 PMIC, Samsung Shannon 928 RF Transceiver and Samsung Shannon 710 Envelope Tracking IC

Broadcom BCM4773 GNSS Location Hub

InvenSense MPU-6500 Gyro + Accelerometer

Skyworks SKY78042 Multimode Multiband (MMMB) Front-End Module (FEM)

Avago AFEM-9020 PAM and Avago ACPM-7007 PAM

Samsung C2N8B6 Image Processor

Maxim MAX98505 Class DG Audio Amplifier and Maxim MAX77843 Companion PMIC

Samsung Electro-Mechanics 3853B5 Wi-Fi Module

N5DDPS2 (Likely Samsung NFC Controller (P/N needs to be confirmed)

Wolfson WM1840 Audio CODEC

Texas Instruments BQ51221 Single Chip Wireless Power Receiver

Skyworks SKY13415 Antenna Switch

STMicro FT6BH Touch Screen Controller

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Post ID: @OP+ATiNlYE

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the 810 was supposed to be the answer until people found out it made a better hot plate than an apps processor.

And regardless even if the next processor is better than everyone elses the handset makers don't care. All they care about is who is cheaper that can meet the paper specs they want.

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Post ID: @8utr+ATiNlYE

The next snapdragon will rule all and all of the big dogs will be back.....just be patient.

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Post ID: @8qfv+ATiNlYE

"... some of us were right afterall..."

Where did you predict this earlier in print, oh wise one?

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Post ID: @7zri+ATiNlYE

Read and understand all you goofy asssss doom sayers.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/04/03/samsungs-chip-choice-is-a-mixed-verdict-for-qualcomm/. A small snipet for you clowns to read.....

“Samsung has always mixed up their vendors,” says Patrick Moorhead, an analyst with Moor Insights & Strategy.

Samsung must consider factors such as keeping its chip factories running at capacity, Moorhead said, in addition to the product-design priorities. The company has a massive plant in Austin, Tex., that supplied Apple-designed processors for that company’s iPhones.

Apple switched from Samsung to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co.TSM -0.72% to build chips for the iPhone 6. But Bloomberg this week reported that Apple will switch back to Samsung to supply chips for its next model.

Moorhead, meanwhile, said Samsung may switch back to Qualcomm for its flagship smartphones, once the chip maker comes up with a new version of its Snapdragon line that uses more original circuitry.

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Post ID: @6HLE+ATiNlYE

Not sure what all of the ranting and BS this is stirring up. Bottom line is, Samsung is hurting bad....Apple is crushing them and LG is catching up. They are doing this to save their assss. Qualcomm has other big players that will rise and pass Samsung...just wait.

BTW, 2012 did not bring the end of the world for all you doom sayers.... 2K junkies

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Post ID: @6eMU+ATiNlYE

End of Qualcomm as we know it.

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Post ID: @4bou+ATiNlYE

End of the world as we know it

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Post ID: @3P6A+ATiNlYE

Qualcomm's betamax technology is superior in every way to IBM's and the Chinese VCR chips.

Don't worry you 10 year + expensive employees, as things get tight and you get cut the Q will hire you back after the layoffs, with a big T on your badge getting paid in rupies. If you didn't get PIP'd out and blacklisted.

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Post ID: @21A3+ATiNlYE

Even if QC loses most of chip sales, it still has $8billion in licensing revenue. That is all profit.

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Post ID: @2UAF+ATiNlYE

chips are irrelevant. some light reading about the real gladiator match. I love that neither company below a party to the particular case, but they chime in anyway via the Beltway Lawyers with extreme earnestness. Such is patent law I guess.

http://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Apple-amicus-brief.pdf

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http://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/qualcomm.pdf

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Post ID: @24FK+ATiNlYE

Below, a metaphor, for when companies believe in their own myth story, manifest destiny, and tech exceptionalism (that shining corporate city upon a hill). Is it Intel? Msft? Apple? QC? All? None? Warning: Graphic Violence!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA8Bjzj-aLs

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Post ID: @2pBb+ATiNlYE

the chips from other companies are "good enough"..... QUALCOMM's superiority was with Modem+snapdragon solution which has become less popular now ...Apple never used that and Samsung is not doing that either....only companies which go for complete solution are the ones who don't make their own chips like HTC,Sony(might shut down its phone divison)... LG is making chips, so is Huwaei(at least the processors)....Chinese companies are going with mediatek because of the cost.....

In short Qualcomm is loosing ground and quite fast....MSFT will tie up with Intel as it has already shut down Windows RT.... Intel is buying its way into the mobile at Qualcomm's expense...... Qualcomm is on the road of becoming AMD!!!!

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Post ID: @1uq5+ATiNlYE

QC has crafted a most ingenious licensing scheme. What is meant to promote phone development has turned into a tool for monopoly on chip development. Apple and Samsung refuse to allow this, and so, QC is losing grip of the chip business, which has peaked in 2014. The new strategy is to lower the cost of phone as much as possible to reduce licensing fee, which means cutting chip cost however possible.

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Post ID: @1ux0+ATiNlYE

David: This was a gift from Lee Iacocca. 20-year old single malt Scotch.

Michael: Here’s to Mr. Iacocca, and his failed experiment, the DeLorean.

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Post ID: @1RCz+ATiNlYE

And there is a big reason why an Microsoft going to an x86 architecture with their devices makes sense. For OEMs, a device that uses x86 would (in theory) be able to dual boot both Windows 10 and Android. Microsoft already stated they aren't fully committed to supporting ARM for Windows 10. And it's already discontinued ARM support for Windows RT.The old WinTel alliance will come back. You can bet on that.

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Post ID: @1QDA+ATiNlYE

You idiots that think QC chips are "superior" technically have no clue how this business works. Intel is some grabbing business not because they have a superior technical solution. They are grabbing business because they are PAYING OEM's to use their solution. That's why Intel is currently burning a lot of money in their mobile division. Because they can afford to do this because most of their earnings still comes from PC sales. So they are trying to BUY into the mobile segment. It's probably why intel just announced recently that they are no longer going to provide earnings numbers for their mobile division separately from the rest of their business. Because they plan on dumping even more money into mobile, even if it means at a cost to them. They can afford to do this because they still dominate the PC segment, with no other competitor (AMD is on life support). QC on the other hand can't use the same strategy, because their earnings is completely in the mobile segment. Also, with the exception of your high end tier 1 customer like Apple and Samsung, no one else really cares if you have the "technically best solution". If you look at what is happening in the markets in China, the concept of "good enough" and "low cost" are synonymous. OEMs in china aren't always willing to pay for the "best technical solution". If in doubt, talk to any sales guy in china right now. They will tell you the same exact thing that other suppliers have been experiencing. So that leaves us with tier 1 customers like apple and samsung. Apple, never used QC's complete solution, so that's fine (for now). So then there's Samsung. Well, we know how well that's going, don't we? Long term, QC will probably be ok. But it's not going to be anywhere near the walk in the park that QC has enjoyed up to this point. QC's going to have to run a lot slimmer and a lot leaner. What that means for employees is that your benefits glory days are numbered.

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Post ID: @1BZW+ATiNlYE

Qualcomm chipset is superior to Intel chipset. No need for Windows team to worry. Get back to work.

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Post ID: @18BQ+ATiNlYE

Other companies have caught up with qualcomm, moreover if samsung starts selling SOC at a lower price than qcom and if they replace all their mobiles with their own, no other way otehr than to layoff people

If Microsoft starts using Intel chipset for their lumia range , then we can surely see windows team getting dissolved.

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Post ID: @1W1g+ATiNlYE

Well oiled Gladiators may be required to defend Qualcomm.

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Post ID: @1BZR+ATiNlYE

http://www.bidnessetc.com/38962-samsung-galaxy-s6-teardown-reveals-lesser-qualcomm-inc-participation/

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Post ID: @h0z+ATiNlYE

There may be a need to lower revenue guidance given the news of modem lost. S6 is expected to be more popular than S5 and sell more units. If QC forecast had omitted both S6 sales volume and modem lost, then the revenue forecast could be off by a few percent.

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Post ID: @eom+ATiNlYE

Victorious? Is this a gladiator battle against your customers? Do you like to watch gladiator movies?

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Post ID: @mj3+ATiNlYE

Just a minor setback. Qualcomm will be victorious ind the end. Work harder and smarter everyone.

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