Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

RTO and 8 Hrs - Non Exempt

Exempt employees generally receive a salary that provides flexibility in their schedules, often working 50 to 60 hours per week, all covered under their base pay. With the recent Return to Office (RTO) transition and leadership monitoring an 8-hour workday, the dynamic has changed. This shift isn’t official, of course, because if our hours were formally tracked, exempt employees would technically become nonexempt, making them eligible for overtime beyond 8 hours per day.

Has leadership considered the implications? If there’s a new emphasis on strictly 8-hour workdays, many will only work the required hours—no more, no less. Traditionally, exempt employees often work beyond the clock to meet demands, but this change could alter their commitment. It seems this adjustment comes as a response to a workforce where some may have misused remote work privileges. While it’s not ideal or fair to treat all employees the same, it appears there isn’t much choice left. In reality, RTO may also serve as a strategic method to reduce headcount, positioning it as a way to address workforce challenges.

For context, exempt employees typically work in administrative, professional, or executive roles and are not eligible for overtime pay under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Nonexempt employees, on the other hand, are usually hourly workers who perform manual or technical tasks and qualify for overtime pay.

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Post ID: @OP+1vkCcTXo

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7 to 3. Mon-Fri. Its not hard

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Post ID: @tchk+1vkCcTXo

AT&T is a vast company with the 8am to 5pm type roles working Monday to Friday, no weekends, no holidays, no after hours, no on-call which means far less stress than those managers in the frontline positions supporting customers whose hours may be extended and almost all of the domestic managers in these positions are on-call some of the time, if not more, as most teams are understaffed. Service Managers are on-call 24 hours which allows no downtime, and they are expected to check in during vacations which is beyond ridiculous. Everyone deserves downtime to recharge and refresh.

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Post ID: @tucg+1vkCcTXo

I've done some research on this and hate to say this but it is against us. Employers can INDEED track exempt employee hours. There is no law that they cannot. Most do not and rely on honor system. T has no honor system as it shows. But I am going to bet, they already consulted their million dollar lawyers, and approved it. Lawsuit against this will not be won. As for work after 4:30 or 5pm, It takes me 1.5hr to drive home, I am home around 6pm/6:30. If they need me after that, I technically would not be able to cater as I have to tend to my family etc. Maybe after everything, I will be able to check at 9pm, but already too tired to do anything as I have to wake up early to be at the office at 8am.

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Post ID: @2fhm+1vkCcTXo

There will be severance in the January layoffs!

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Post ID: @1zdx+1vkCcTXo

Exempt requires you meet certain requirements. Starting in Jan 2025, for us professional highly comp class, total comp needs to exceed $151k and that number will adjust up every 3 years. I think a lot of people are going to have to be given raises to meet that or they will be classed as non-exempt and OT eligible. That will seriously dent the expected hours we have to work.

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Post ID: @1tvb+1vkCcTXo

All it takes is one lawsuit in one state to flip every exempt manager to non-exempt. Just get someone in Co-miefornia to sue.

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Post ID: @1iat+1vkCcTXo

"Based on current data continuing to be expanded,"

I call this current data BS, when its time for layoffs and everybody becomes a numbers the company will say anything including the magical data showing this and that

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Post ID: @kku+1vkCcTXo

"There WILL be voluntary (no severance) attrition in 2025"

MUCH VOLUNTARY ATTRITION!!

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Post ID: @ogs+1vkCcTXo

This is hilarious. You're paid a salary for the flexibility to work the extra time needed, not the flexibility to dodge a minimum expectation of 8 hours a day. Lmao.

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Post ID: @ulb+1vkCcTXo

"When the work cannot be done during the hours of 9-5 we will begin working Shifts, and some weekends. This hole they've started can go much deeper. See how silly your worries have been up to now?"

Tru dat. There WILL be voluntary (no severance) attrition in 2025

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Post ID: @spg+1vkCcTXo

When the work cannot be done during the hours of 9-5 we will begin working Shifts, and some weekends. This hole they've started can go much deeper. See how silly your worries have been up to now?

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Post ID: @fmq+1vkCcTXo

How and Where We Work will dictate how and where you’re allowed to work. Comply or see your way out. If you think Big PJ’s cares about your paragraphs of whining - he doesn’t.

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Post ID: @cfy+1vkCcTXo

Just put your Out Of Office on every night when you leave work and say that you will not be available until you return to the office in person the next business day. When we were told of 5 days in person, I asked my supervisor for a locked drawer to leave my COU and Laptop at the office every night since I do not have dedicated space (yet).

Won’t take long for the execs to not be able to get stuff done after 5 pm or weekends, especially with outages and weather events, and they will miraculously change their tune.

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Post ID: @iye+1vkCcTXo

"If there’s a new emphasis on strictly 8-hour workdays, many will only work the required hours—no more, no less."
Based on current data continuing to be expanded, getting a solid 8 hours of work from employees consistently would be a gamechanger.

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Post ID: @uvi+1vkCcTXo

This is the category that I fall into. I am exempt and in a technical support roll. I really don't care about going in for 5 days a week unless you start demanding that I adhere to that edict even after pulling on call all nighters.
If I put in a full shift on Tuesday and then Tuesday evening I get summoned to work on an outage well into Wednesday I am NOT driving downtown to fulfill this ridiculous mandate a couple of hours later. The great part is that my mortgage is paid and I'm the last man standing in my role. Foxtrot Alpha Foxtrot Oscar.

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