I recently had my medical accommodation for a disability that will never improve or change reviewed. My doctor completed the required forms. Hr only approved for a year even though my dr clearly requested I work remotely ongoing.
Does anyone know if this is the new practice going forward where we have to re request the accommodation every year?
I worked for Wells Fargo for 33 years my last 6 were working remotely. I never had an issue doing this. The company was very accommodating to my needs. I'm guessing the people that express displeasure are probably people with axes to grind.
@6hvw Enrique this you?
It will need to be renewed annually. I had been on full-time accommodations for 8 years. It had been permanent. I was never expected to live this long. Not to be dramatic but I have several serious health issues. The renewal form was very vague. Forced to work onsite now three days a week. They're a morally vacant company. The accommodations advocate informed me a female employee diagnosed with cancer was required to go from full-time accommodations to the hybrid schedule. I mean just sick behavior. You push back and they'll furlough you. They're really ramping up their shift to send all the work offshore to India and the Philippines so I think this is one method of getting rid of American employees. Good news is we're failing reg E audits because of the offshore employees so I guess it's karma and a case of you get what you pay for,.....
I know someone who worked there 10 years, had severe depression, anxiety. While wfh she actually thought her mental issues were cured. She did not ask for accommodations from beginning because she felt she should try although the only time she could successfully work 40 hours was remote they pushed against her requests, yet as mentioned above, letting others work who just asked for it. They pushed her to her limit, she is dead. Nice bank
Accommodations case workers are not medical licensed, they push people with ptsd to that point while allowing others who always made it to work before. Her manager was waiting for the opportunity.
Wells fargo should be sued, who give some 24 hourly paid lady or man the right to deny when 5 Dr's said she needed help. It's discrimination. They talk about doing what's right constant we donated toward this or that helping communities, my a-s. They can't even take care of their own. They pay poverty, favor some, judge others, they make you train foreign workers then they give work away. The people running the commercial card side are all losers.
I can't wait until everyone of them feels what they have done for this woman's family the dirty rotten gossip under paid wanna bes are what is wrong with the bank
They have dip sh-t slobs who should be working at teleperdormance
You hurt my friend. She needed some help you think it's okay
Soon you will find out
I know someone who worked there 10 years, had severe depression, anxiety. While wfh she actually thought her mental issues were cured. She did not ask for accommodations from beginning because she felt she should try although the only time she could successfully work 40 hours was remote they pushed against her requests, yet as mentioned above, letting others work who just asked for it. They pushed her to her limit, she is dead. Nice bank
I think that accommodations should be reviewed quarterly. It is well known that employees at my location are scamming the system. We had people with disabilities get accommodations, but yet others with disabilities (wheelchair, walker, back injury required special desk/chair) still coming to the office. People found out that others with mental health accommodations with years worth of medical records were allowed wfh. Others then claimed anxiety/depression went to a few doctor's appointments, got a script for medication and then wfh. These same employees are all over social media living their best life partying. I know of one person that claimed anxiety, put in for a higher position that required them to come to office. My first thought was, "the anxiety magically disappeared once they got a higher position. I call bs on some of the accommodations. It's like the people with accommodations got a raise. They don't have to gas up weekly, wear and tear on their car commuting and they can work at home in sweats, so no clothing expenses. If WF did away with hybrid and RTO , these people would RTO to avoid being laid off.
Accommodations made me so mad,
I actually contacted an ADA attorney. 10/10
Recommend…. Also I got laid off on a Tuesday about a moth after accommodations started harassing me (when they hadn’t checked in a single time for YEARS. Many many years)
“ Wild how many ableist people feel the need to chirp on this forum about how they also don’t believe your doctor’s recommendation.”
Lots of doctors come up with lots of opinions. But for the most part, I see the bank doing ok in this area. The law says an accommodation and that is what you deserve if disabled. That may or may not mean wfh.
Signed, SSI household member
Yes, everyone. This is the new norm. Accommodations will be reviewed yearly.
They started with people who had an open-ended accommodation to WFH indefinitely and are working their way down the list. Your accommodation will be reviewed each year. I just went through this with a direct, as well as myself. HR can be pushy on this, so be sure and work with your Dr. on what they write on the form and their recommendation for you. In some cases, yes, WFH is the only feasible option and they will agree to that if your Dr. has stated that is the only option. Educate yourself about ADA and, specifically, your employment rights as an individual with a disability.
I'm not going to take a horse drawn carriage to work just because that's what people did "before technology". Hudson Yards sadism, failed leadership, and intentional inefficiency is mo--nic and there's just justifying it. F them, all of them. I could retire, but I won't give them that satisfaction. They will pay me to leave. Whole year of paychecks. To many of my friends have been hacked by liars and thieves. They don't get what they want, not this time.
Annual reviews are pretty common. You attest to outside accounts, outside activity, etc. you expect them to approve it for life & never question anything? What if your condition needs more accommodations & they never asked? Then someone would complain about that. Even social security administration does reviews of people on disability year to year. It’s nothing but record keeping formality not some evil plan.
So if a company says we will accommodate you but you will be present 2 hours 3 days a week. Any time of the day. I hate to say this but this is a company. If you can’t take a “reasonable” accomodation in office then unless you were hired with them knowing they hired you because of the disability and you won’t even make an attempt to be like everyone else ——good luck finding a labor lawyer to represent you after they find a reasonable accomodation to make you part of the next reduction.
I am one that has opted to RTO 3 days a week like everyone else. My reason is this. I have a permanent disability but I feel like accommodations have been exploited. Maybe i have to use a wheel chair, maybe i have ulcer or what ever, vision hearing, PTSD but why shouldn’t i try to go in the office and see what works and what doesn’t. Right now this can be a good reason to get riffed. What did people do before we had technology. Get themselves in the office and make it work because we need to make a living. HR was very rude about it and i just decided i was done with dealing with them and might be a good thing to get out in the real world. For those with issues. Do you go out to dinner, to the movies etc. Well why not in the office for a couple hours to show that you are not special with or without a disability
There may be employees in which remote is the only reasonable accommodation, but for many it is not. One of my employees is among the latter and I even helped them get the BS remote accommodation because I hate RTO and I take care of my team.
I have ulcerative colitis. This means some days I have lightning erupting from my pants, oftentimes with no warning, and oftentimes requiring a frantic run to the toilet, a change of clothes, or a shower, sometimes all three. WFH means that my day is interrupted much less frequently and doesn't require a drive home in soiled clothes in the middle of the day.
HR is telling you that you have 1 year to start coming in 3 days a week, or you can find new employment. If you choose not to, then you will be part of a large layoff with a variety of classes of people so they can claim they aren't discriminating against anyone.
It is standard for them to re-review and request new documentation once a year- the accompdations team just got very backed up during the pandemic so they are just now getting back into regular routine. Mine was re-reviewed recently and approved.
Will they accept a Doctor's note from TIJUANA (TJ)?
He is a board certified Doctor.
For those with WFH accommodations and you are not a key player on the team, you will be let go eventually. Inevitable.
Wild how many ableist people feel the need to chirp on this forum about how they also don’t believe your doctor’s recommendation.
Do you think their tongues are getting sore licking HR’s pumps all day?
According to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission - Enforcement Guidance on Reasonable Accommodation and Undue Hardship under the ADA, “An employer cannot ask for documentation when: (1) both the disability and the need for reasonable accommodation are obvious, or (2) the individual has already provided the employer with sufficient information to substantiate that s/he has an ADA disability and needs the reasonable accommodation requested.”
I’ve been telling them this for years and they don’t care.
So you can't drive to the office and stay for a couple of hours at all, but can drive to the grocery store and to the doctor?
Yes. This was a review of my existing accommodation and the meeting was scheduled the same day within an hour of when the email invite was sent.
How many people on a WFH accommodation actually need a WFH accommodation? My guess is less than 5%.
I just received a meeting invite with HR for accommodation check in and it says to discuss if it is working or any changes needed. Is this the same thing that was referenced above? Are they going to require a new doctor note? I have a different doctor now and was just there twice…certainly don’t want to pay for yet another visit to discuss.
Not to say that your accommodation is bogus, but I have multiple coworkers (4 in a Quality Monitoring department of 6) who all have work from home accommodations but who also manage to participate in offsite volunteer outings (United Way and Habitat For Humanity). HR needs to review peoples status more than once a year especially if we have photos of employees swinging hammers for charity when they can’t be bothered to sit in an office because of anxiety or bone spurs.
Same here. Condition that will only get worse not improve. Was told by HR it will be reviewed annually now.
Who knows if Wells Fargo will be around in a year!
I got an year accommodation and was laid off 3 months later, be prepared!
Yes, it's the standard approach of failed executives that are desperately trying to get people to voluntarily resign. FRTO and FHY.
Be happy you got WFH for a year. Most now days are just getting denied. You could be laid off in a year. It happened to me.
That’s the new thing for WF. You will have to re-up your accommodation every year - even if nothing has changed.
Yes. You need to re-request accomodations.