Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

“No one in my office is even on my team, I don’t even know who the fu-k they are!”

Sounds like a good job for India then

They must be tracking location now because there’s a ton of people roaming around looking for cubes this week. Enjoy your 3 to 1 employee to cube ratio.

Someone’s not a team player. Mandatory NLEP training for you.

“No one in my office is even on my team, I don’t even know who the fu-k they are!”
You ate working for the wrong company. This is not the needed direction at T.

I think the difference is, older people enjoyed socializing and viewed co workers as family, the dynamic has changed with younger people…especially if those younger people have families at home.
Work is work, younger people know these people at the office aren’t friends, they’re work acquaintances.

I have met a few friends at work, they’re usually people who are in the same field as me, but hey T fired all the other software engineers in my office so I mean, I have really no desire to network with HR, or people from “admin” and god forbid I run into someone from marketing or some business department, ew.

I think I’ve figured it out…..it’s the boomers who grew up outside of the digital age who don’t get literally anything done because they’re too busy “networking” and being social butterflies.

Why don’t they just make it a rule that everyone over 50 has to RTO and the young tech savvy people who prefer to perform business virtually can just stay home?

I’m not in the office to network, I’m there because T is making me be there and I’m there to WORK. No one in my office is even on my team, I don’t even know who the fu-k they are!
I have no desire to talk to Betty from HR, or Bob from accounting.

“Then you should be networking and making contacts.”

So I should be walking to people’s desks while they’re on calls with headphones on busy and introduce myself to people I’ve never spoken to and be super annoying and toxic?

When I’m in the office the last thing I want is some random walking up to me while I’m trying to write a bunch of code and get sh-t done, I give other people the same courtesy.

I go in, sit down, do my sh-t, leave.

I see most others do the same.

No one wants to be there.

If I see you in an office trying to work I’ll be sure to come up be annoying as fu-k and make sure you don’t get anything done.

Then you should be networking and making contacts.

“There are local coworkers you should be working with.”

Boomer doesn’t understand distributed teams.
How cute.

"Because there is NO ONE that I work with or do work for in the office I am assigned. "

There are local coworkers you should be working with.

"If the goal is to be in the office to collaborate and work with your peers why would you go to an office other than the one you're assigned?"

Because there is NO ONE that I work with or do work for in the office I am assigned. For that matter, there is NO ONE in the entire STATE that I work in. But hey, I'm in a hub....there's that. SMDH

There’s been data on this, and RTO has overall actually lowered productivity. The productivity numbers this year are worse than last year and way worse than the years where everyone was wfh with Covid.

Is there some advantage to working in person? Sure - but most of these things just naturally take place virtually now so, as others have said, you end up with most teams just doing all meetings virtually anyway…which does overall make being in the office pretty much pointless.

Due to the added stress, attrition, and employee anger caused by RTO policies you end up with lower productivity due to quiet quitting, malicious compliance, etc.

There’s studies and numbers coming out about this now from independent sources - there’s a reason why most companies refuse to back up RTO with actual data…it’s because the data doesn’t support their narrative.

Ignoring the data for your own bias has proven to be foolish throughout history.

"If the goal is to be in the office to collaborate and work with your peers why would you go to an office other than the one you're assigned?"

Obviously I work with peers in other locations. I work with Engineering, Planning and Construction. Being customer facing we are not in a centralized location. So depending on what I have to do for the day and who I need to work with, I may choose to sit elsewhere. Its literally for collaboration. The definition of the MS occupancy indicator acknowledges as much. There's a reason OI's were broken into National and market.

Wow how the mighty T has fallen. From the top clear down to the weak minded at the bottom. You are there to do as you are told. If you can’t grasp that reality, then move on. It would be the first thing you’ve done to show you have a spine. Whining here only shows that you’ve never been required to become an adult.

“We’re supposed to show up to the location in webphone. It’s been that way my whole 30 year career. Those that don’t are technically not in compliance with company policy.”

The ironic part about Stankey wanting to get rid of all the boomers, is that they’re also the only people at the company who still agree with and side with him.

He’s not the sharpest tool in the shed, that’s for sure.

We’re supposed to show up to the location in webphone. It’s been that way my whole 30 year career. Those that don’t are technically not in compliance with company policy.

Who are these douche bag HR people supporting this nonsense on here?
Everyone I know at the company has turned against the company, are these people who work in HR and business like a whole different species?

Do they actually believe if they kiss a-s making their paltry $75k a year or whatever things will actually get better for them?
How d-mb are they? Go get a technical degree and get a real job you losers.

“If the goal is to be in the office to collaborate and work with your peers why would you go to an office other than the one you're assigned?”

So….we have people in Toronto, Israel, Eastern Europe, India, Atlanta, Dallas, and New Jersey on my team alone.
And there’s no plan to co-locate anyone.

Does this new magical Stankey RTO allow me to be in 7 places at once? If it does, then I’m in.

Oh it doesn’t?

Then maybe the goal isn’t to “Be in the same place” but make workers miserable and push attrition?

Or are you just being intentionally dense and obtuse?

"By badging into a nearby satellite office you’re still meeting the arbitrary requirement of RTO, you’re on site making the report look pretty and Stankey happy which we all know is really all that matters here and maybe there at least you can get some quiet to actually get SOME work done."
It's clear you are in a different station of life. It's time for you to move on.

If the goal is to be in the office to collaborate and work with your peers why would you go to an office other than the one you're assigned?

“How dare a company assign me an office location to work from!!!" You do see how d-mb that sounds, right?”

Id--t troll. They assigned my office in Atlanta you big sack of dung. Come say it to my face.

the draconian RTO process is a reflection of the draconian level of thinking of t's ceo's, really what else can you expect from them?

"How dare a company assign me an office location to work from!!! You do see how d-mb that sounds, right?"

You are obviously a big government sychopant. You believe in making rules at the highest level for everyone below you even though you have no intention of living by those rules yourself. Force everyone into a communal setting while you pi-s on them from your ivory, protected tower.

""How dare a company assign me an office location to work from!!!" You do see how d-mb that sounds, right? "

You do see how stupid the restrictions are since the current rules are more stringent than the rules prior to covid. And you do see how you sound like a corporate a-s kisser who believes in management through fear and intimidation. The implementation of the entire RTO and FTW process makes it obvious there was only one real intent . . . reduce work force. You do see that, don't you. It is the Casino paradigm, either you are in on it our you are too stupid to see recognize what is happening.

“If you’ve seen the report as of the last couple weeks, you’d have noted a new “badged at assigned location” column.

Sounds like you haven’t seen it.”

I have never seen a report at all. I would love to be able to pull one up and see. Does it really exist? How do I know if I can’t have access to view it?

This limitation never existed before, and it shouldn’t really exist now.
Before Covid I had days where I needed to meet and work with one particular team on a particular project and they were in another different nearby location and I’d go there on those days, and on other days I’d go to a different office.
No one cared, or noticed because none of it was being tracked and my director knew if they didn’t see me I was at the other location.

Now there’s all this bullsh-t - and for what? What REASON does all this exist now? Are there numbers to show that this is producing better outcomes? All this micromanagement?

HR and management types ask the boss “how and when” technical people with some degree of intelligence ask “why” when presented with something inefficient that makes no sense.

Adding to this, it isn’t a trivial ask when you also know these points

1. You can perform your job remotely to the same extent you’d perform it at the office
2. You’re spending $30 on parking and walking miles, paying tolls, etc to sit on teams and do the same thing you’d do at home. I still haven’t, to this day, met in person with anyone since RTO started.
3. Your allocated to a sh---y shared space, without any of the tools you have at your home workspace, in a sh---y office, with tons of people on calls at the same time, screaming, doing work unrelated to your department and it’s so distracting you just know in office days are basically 0 productivity days. I just expect that I’m never going to get anything of value done at the office.
4. By badging into a nearby satellite office you’re still meeting the arbitrary requirement of RTO, you’re on site making the report look pretty and Stankey happy which we all know is really all that matters here and maybe there at least you can get some quiet to actually get SOME work done.

“You do see how d-mb that sounds, right?”

It should be left up to individual teams and managers to decide if you need to be in downtown Dallas or can badge in at Plano, not a company wide mandate as the needs of each individual team/org are different.

The offices are over-packed - I still have co-workers and friends who have to sit on the floor because they can’t find a seat or spend $30 on downtown parking because there isn’t a spot.

If the company wants everyone at the same location they need to facilitate that, provide parking, provide space, and make the request reasonable to meet. Instead it feels like they’re just trying to make everyone as miserable as possible.

"How dare a company assign me an office location to work from!!!" You do see how d-mb that sounds, right?

“Just to be safe I will sign myself up for badge access for the 32 locations in the tri-state area. Nobody beats Jungle Jim at my own game. I just noticed the time. it’s 4:18. I have to wipe and pack up to go home now.”

That’s the spirit.

“I haven’t heard any news about enforcement under Ward and I know my Director could care less.”

That doesn’t make me feel better at all. When HR and chief chicken little legg say one thing and you have sleepy ward not saying anything at all, is it safe for you and your director to do your own thing? It’’s probably a T-trap like everything else around here,

Just to be safe I will sign myself up for badge access for the 32 locations in the tri-state area. Nobody beats Jungle Jim at my own game. I just noticed the time. it’s 4:18. I have to wipe and pack up to go home now.

“Your team meets the criteria for a notification”

They aren’t trying to co-locate ours.
All hubs are covered in our team because they aren’t going to throw away so many network engineers with years of experience over some d-mb RTO sh-t.

Go back to HR where a beach ball with a smiley face can do your job.

"It’s probably more for teams that are all co-located vs spread out across all the hubs like ours"

Your team meets the criteria for a notification

This new indicator is planned as an automated factor to help determine bonus amounts next year.

“My manager started reviewing the new field with my work group last week.”

Your manager su-ks.

D-mb.
It’s to force people into the shithole downtown Dallas office.

A lot of managers probably won’t care though, we will see how it’s enforced - I haven’t heard any news about enforcement under Ward and I know my Director could care less.

It’s probably more for teams that are all co-located vs spread out across all the hubs like ours.

My manager started reviewing the new field with my work group last week.

I report to the wrong office frequently. My boss has never said anything to me about it.

I know a director who told their group ‘I don’t care where you swipe just do it three days a week.’

So inconsistent.

If you’ve seen the report as of the last couple weeks, you’d have noted a new “badged at assigned location” column.

Sounds like you haven’t seen it.

Not true. They are matching up IP addresses of reporting location. There is now a column for reporting location how many times a week.