For the new guidelines, seems like between PTO & holidays, if you are out 3 days, you aren’t going to be included in presence reporting. Does that mean you/your manager will get into trouble if you do not show up those 2 days?
It states:
2 days or less: expected to be in the office for the 2 available work days
Included in presence report calculation: No
So not clear if we are ‘safe’ working from home those two days?!
RTO is a joke.
People not returning. Staying home. Managers do nothing.
What about some people working from home and having a side business? How is that monitored? They can't be working 8 hours for AT&T.
"“It's counter productive to come into an office to sit on calls and otherwise work by myself.”
Agreed! No one should be doing this when at the office. Collaboration with local coworkers is essential even if they aren’t on your direct team."
This is one of the stupidest comments that I've seen. (Surprised it got up votes). So I am supposed to go to the office and NOT work? But chit-chat with people that I don't work with because it is "essential" to "colloborate" with local people? Where is the evidence of that supporting the bottom line of AT&T? Sorry, but my job depends upon me colloborating with people who are thousands of miles away. RTO has only made it harder and more ineffecient (since I'm also in a totally different time zones- which creates real commute issues for me to have these meetings in the office). That's my JOB. Not sitting around talking to people who I don't work with.
If the company really meant this to be about collaboration, they would have co-located teams. Which of course, would still have been quite painful for people forced to relocate. They would have paid for those relocations. They would have created an environment for collaboration. They did not. They created open spaces where nobody knows where people are sitting and nobody has a desk to go to. It's like going to the airport and expecting all of the random passengers to collaborate with each other as they work on their laptops waiting for the planes to depart. It's nutty and makes no sense. Because this was never about colloboration.
“It's counter productive to come into an office to sit on calls and otherwise work by myself.”
Agreed! No one should be doing this when at the office. Collaboration with local coworkers is essential even if they aren’t on your direct team.
No. This wasn't ever billed as a productivity enhancer. It's counter productive to come into an office to sit on calls and otherwise work by myself.
I'm not going to be a compliant little worker bot, no matter how many overly simplistic platitudes you post on the board.
"Absolutely the case for me."
Maybe. But we work for the same company. You really believe that was the case for "most" people?
“ Before RTO: The hours spent commuting by most people were spent working because that was the trade-off for working remote”
Absolutely the case for me. I spend an hour commuting when I have to go to the cube farm. When I’m home, that’s work time. Morning schedule doesn’t change because a bunch of id--ts don’t believe in our ‘purpose’ and there’s no way in he-l I’m giving up family for these people. Sure they get me to do teams calls and emails from the cube farm. In exchange, they just give up about a day and a half of work each month in exchange.
As usual, all of that information you gave was not passed along to everyone.
And they still get upset when people ask those questions at meeting? Some communication company were aren't.
"The hours spent commuting by most people were spent working because that was the trade-off for working remote."
You clown. Nobody believes this.
"Just work in the office. Then you won’t spend so much time trying to circumvent the system. And you will increase you productivity."
You are so wrong.
Before RTO: The hours spent commuting by most people were spent working because that was the trade-off for working remote. Company lets us work remote, We give them extra hours for saving us the time and stress of dealing with a commute. It was a simple quid pro quo.
Now: We RTO but most folks are sticking to 8hr/day 40hr/week. No quid pro quo, no more extra hours. The myth of 'salaried people should put in more hours because they are salary' is a fallacy. It doesn't matter if you're salary or hourly, a work week is 40hrs. It's plain and simple, you give any more than that, you deserve some form of compensation. Time is valuable, Only a fool gives theirs away for free.
RTO is rife with constant distractions, people doing laps getting their steps in, loud talkers yammering on and on about nonsense, people talking loud to be heard on Teams calls, and people that feel they are the only one in the room so they take Teams calls via laptop speakers.
RTO is nothing but a productivity ki-ler.
Do the math. Between the distractions breaking your focus and the commute time, the impact to productivity per employee since this started is staggering.
PTO has to be used in chunks of 4 or 8
“So much chat on time keeping and nothing about making $$. Sad”
I wonder why that is?
Maybe the c-suite just needs to fu-k off and focus on making money instead of worrying about where people sit.
So much chat on time keeping and nothing about making $$. Sad
Use 1 hour of PTO on extra days you work from home. Trips the report. I should know, I built it.
This works, but only if you do it for all 5 days of a given week. Any PTO time shows the day as vacation, but you still have to have 3 office days for the week or vacation for the days you did not swipe to be compliant for the week.
Its a great system that is sure to increase stockholder value...
New reporting released in May doesn’t care about holidays. You are expected in the office 3 days per week. In order for that to be lower you must take 3 or more days of PTO. For those in Dallas, this means if you take 4 PTO days you have to be in the office 1 day.
When I started over 26 years ago, I was advised by senior peers to follow the 3 B’s.
Pretty simple and it still applies today. There has always been employees who tried to circumvent those 3 B’s and 99% of them no longer work for the company. Always CYA to protect yourself especially, in the current environment of downsizing and sometimes even that’s not enough due to a high debt load.
“ When you are in the office - you are working When you are not in the office - you are not working Seems straight forward to me.”
Your mom worked deez nuts id--t.
No. On that “leaked” RTO tool overview/demo for the suits, they inferred one would be in the clear (for 2 days TW) if they had 3 days PTO or 1 holiday & 2 PTO days.
When you are in the office - you are working
When you are not in the office - you are not working
Seems straight forward to me.
Just work in the office. Then you won’t spend so much time trying to circumvent the system. And you will increase you productivity.
Use 1 hour of PTO on extra days you work from home. Trips the report. I should know, I built it.
This is a question for your supervisor not an anonymous message board. It varies group to group cmon