Thread regarding Nike Inc. layoffs

TT is a project manager so fighting for roadmaps and timelines should be her focus. TT is not a VP or a leader and that is the problem. How can so many other strong leaders be impacted and she is left to float with little to know results.

TT is a horrible human being

don't get the hate for TT, she's the only one out there fighting for reasonable timelines and roadmaps

I was impacted in Feb, how does someone like TT become a VP or stay a VP with a role smaller than a SR Director should have make it through this untouched.

TPM could have been valuable, but AMV had no idea how to lead that org, and left it to folks like AL who had no idea what they’re doing. Now they’re both gone and both leave behind a legacy of accomplishing absolutely nothing. I’d feel bad for AL if she weren’t such a horrible human being.

@1hof+1s9 SB is already gone on Friday it looks like

I found them very talented and they did great work. All political decisions at this point. Why not focus on getting rid of the truly useless GT leaders - Jen H, RA, EC, Tiff, DA

AL - The most toxic person ever! The org would have been far better without her.

Always have to spread the love, don't leave out others responsible. yes, terrible business move by the Rat and his crew to duplicate an existing product org. Literally their first org chart was a copy and paste of NDP with a bunch of open positions at SR Dir and above level. Then it got really shady. Lot's of newly promoted SR Directors and VPs in GT forced their teams to work with this new org under threat of bad reviews or termination. If you spoke up you were told to fall in line with the direction of leadership, show you are a good leader yourself and make the teams feels good about it. Here's looking at you SB and your directs JL, MM, RM, SG, etc. Thanks for wasting Nike's money and not giving 2fs about our consumer or your people. Great 'leadership'!

It’s so sad to see some cowards post and bash people like AL on here. During this awful time you have the audacity to call her out and just blurt out stuff like an angry child. This is a hard time WE ALL are going through. I hope it makes you sleep better at night.

boy are you in for a surprise tomorrow around technical & business product management at Nike.
Good Luck!!!!

Dont know what TPM was supposed to accomplish but the people I’ve worked with have been mediocre at best

@1gme x10000, I couldn't believe my eyes after phase 1. Garbage human in and outside of the berm.

Frankly, any of those org structures would be fine as long as that toxic waste of money and oxygen AL is gone. She and others just like her are the reason why TPM continues to spiral. Abhorrent that she’s lasted this long.

I find the TPM organization has failed as a consumer/partner to them. I found their either lacked the social skills, landscape, and product knowledge to be effective. Most the time our business product owners knew more about the product and landscape than the TPM.

Now don’t get me wrong, there are a few shining stars in the organization and those are typically on the IC or Lower ends of the organization chain. However, the vertical leadership is plagued with people looking to look good rather than actually provide something of value. They all tried to rub elbows with my leaders and failed miserably.

I can’t imagine the organization surviving, which su-ks for the folks who do really try hard and provide value.

Your acronyms mean nothing. Speak in words

I feel individual TPM's do valuable work. The problem with them being in a different org from engineering is that their director or VP can't measure their success simply by the success of their teams. As a result, they're required to do lots of administrative work and creating artifacts to justify their value. Moving them to engineering would allow tech leadership to hold TPM and the engineering teams accountable for the same goals. It should also allow Nike to get rid of many VP and Sr. Dir positions in the TPM org which didn't exist before Rat came along.

I find it beyond critical to having TPM embedded in our work, daily stand ups and agile ceremonies, they do know their stuff. Their connections can get us answers and solutions that a regular squad PM cannot. They are sitting at a higher level having view into various programs around the firm and geos that a regular squad PM cannot. If you want to cut, let’s cut with CEO pay & board pay.

TPM IC here - for myself and most of my IC coworkers, we were product owners and technical BSAs before being rebranded at the direction of the last reorg. We still do that job, plus a whole lot of extra paperwork and dealing with frustrating politics where we just want to get our work done and contribute to our teams. We are doing valuable work, the same work on our engineering teams that we were doing before TPM, just nobody ever talks about it because of our org's obsession with artifacts nobody uses. Please have some compassion and give us a break.

It purely depends on the individual like any other org. There are many best performers in the TPM org and you cant eliminate everyone of them in a single axe. Its common across Nike, every org has pathetic individuals, for e.g., data engineering - no one knows why such a big org exists when everyone mines their own data and these folks are clueless hanging in there.

Talk about over generalization, sure the TPM org has its share of cronies. So does every other corner of the company, there are plenty of useless BPM creating “strategies” with zero understanding of how software works. So yeah in a logical sane world the best and brightest would be kept and merged into a single product org but that’s not happening.

Funny enough, the best TPMs are the ones who didn’t really listen to all the BS about aritfacts, obsessively detailed roadmaps, and talking about decisions but not actually making any. They are the ones that actually built a relationship with stakeholders, know the details of the what they support, and have been through the muck of actually implementing stuff.

I would have hated being a new hire into that org, you’d think that by writing another word doc product narrative you’d be changing the course of Nike’s history.

🪓 Axe will fall on those absolutely bs folks. Nike is in cost cutting mode until at least end of 2025, reinvesting in areas that actually can grow new ARR. Why is Nike filled with so many hanger ons, salesy, and super political only types?…

TPM was a way to hire & promote specific senior leaders’ pets. It worked (or didn’t) exactly as intended.

We JUST finished dealing with the real-world chaos of merging Tech & Digital. The fact that TPM was allowed to grow like a weed, with no actual deliverables, is criminal.

Not at the IC level. I love all my peers, sc--w the broken system.

Straight facts, TPM was an act on the same level of RAT and his crew. It blows my mind that shareholders aren’t starting criminal investigations.

that will be completely laid off in my honest opinion. axe is about to fall on them wait for next week.

that will be completely laid in my honest opinion.

They were never recognized because they were useless and had no idea what they were talking about. Any other organization TPMs are masters of the tech they “represent”. Not the id**s Nike hired.