Thread regarding Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) layoffs

A CEO doing layoffs

Back in the day, meaning like 4 years ago; a company going through a layoff was an EMBARRASSMENT.

It was a point of FAILURE.

I remember sitting with colleagues and making plans to host networking events across the street from competitors that were laying off people, working to scoop this talent up.
We would speak amongst each other and take bets on how long it would be from layoffs to the company shutting down.

It wasn’t shameful to be laid off, but it was shameful to be a CEO of a company doing layoffs.

CEOs would get replaced for that, as they should. And who would want to touch a CEO who had to layoff their workers?

Now, like everything else, the shame has been trickled down to the individuals. People are ashamed of being laid off, instead of CEOs being ashamed of doing the lay offs. Heck, CEOs are making MORE because of lay offs, not getting fired.

If you are a CEO doing layoffs because of pi-s poor planning and “overhiring” you don’t deserve to be a CEO, you deserved to be blackballed because you are a failure

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Post ID: @OP+1qNkVWNF

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Well that response didn’t sound insane at all. I especially liked the double exclamation marks. Next time try all caps. Just remember that help is available. Maybe Prozac?

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Post ID: @1isqy+1qNkVWNF

OOH, someone's insanity got called out by multiple people and now you're still doubling down?!! Not sure who's not on their meds here. Time to practice some humility.

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Post ID: @1igxe+1qNkVWNF

Well, at least we are now in agreement that the attitude towards layoffs has changed in the business community, and that the change occurred long ago.

I think you do need to go back on your meds. Do you still hear the voices?

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Post ID: @1hawu+1qNkVWNF

Layoffs haven't been an embarrassment for HPE for at least 3 decades now. Who are you trying to kid?

Now, it just a way to line CEO/Board member pockets...

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Post ID: @Jzgm+1qNkVWNF

Yes, you should take your meds.

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Post ID: @hsgm+1qNkVWNF

You got all this emotive projection from text on a web forum did ya?

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Post ID: @gryh+1qNkVWNF

Such an angry person you are.

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Post ID: @gqpn+1qNkVWNF

Bruh! You just called IBM (and HP) a leader!!! In 2024!!! If anyone is not living in objective reality it is your d-mb a-s!

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Post ID: @fotd+1qNkVWNF

IBM is not an outlier, it is a leader. Other companies follow. HP itself is another example. It used to pride itself on a no layoff policy. Well that has certainly changed. The point that, yes you are missing, is that things have changed when it comes to layoffs. If you don’t see that, then you are not living in objective reality.

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Post ID: @dkmx+1qNkVWNF

That's great, but IBM in the 80 and 90s is a massive outlier compared to the "average" corporation in the US. The average US corp doesn't even stay in business for 40 years.

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Post ID: @aqdl+1qNkVWNF

I interned at IBM I the early 90s. They were quite proud that the company never had a layoff. So, yes, this was a thing at one time. A few years later, somewhere in the mid 90s, IBM had its first layoff ever and has been having them regularly since.

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Post ID: @9fas+1qNkVWNF

We're not missing the point. We're pointing out that layoffs are a normal part of business, and have been for as long as private enterprise has been a thing. The OP has made a very bizarre point. Almost as if he hasn't been living in an objective reality for the last 40, or is it 4, years.

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Post ID: @9qay+1qNkVWNF

I think maybe the 4 is a typo and that it was supposed to be 40. Regardless of whether or not is was a typo, focussing on the number of years is missing the most important point about this post.

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Post ID: @7tvd+1qNkVWNF

sh!t rolls down hill

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Post ID: @6nhm+1qNkVWNF

That's the way to do it alright, get into a big HPE customer then make sure they get as little new business as possible.

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Post ID: @4xcj+1qNkVWNF

I completely agree Anonymous. I've easily steered over 12 mill+ of business over my last 25 year career away from places like HPE, IBM, EMC, etc. They are highly unethical companies and prove it with their actions time and time again. They don't understand reputational damage until it is right in their face.

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Post ID: @3wku+1qNkVWNF

This is nothing new. Back in the day, 4 years ago???? I have been in IT since 1989! These layoffs happen constantly. Companies look at IT folks as expendable, the one thing they don't focus on is when they lay people off what kind of damage that person will do to the reputation of the Company. I, for instance, have steered every customer I work with away from HPE, IBM, and EMC for well over 15 years ( success rate of 100% ). They lost money and reputation. The C suite understands money not Tech. Scr3w them and the pool they told their kids they would get for Xmas.

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Post ID: @2jmh+1qNkVWNF

I guess you haven't been paying attention. Mass layoffs have been a thing for going on 33 years (GE was the mastermind in the mass layoff and offshoring before spreading this method as "the one to rule them all"). No, CEOs have never been thought of as failing when they lay off people. They would routinely increase their bonus levels as a direct result of layoffs, as layoffs lead to increased revenues.

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Post ID: @2tgl+1qNkVWNF

I recall one of those all employee meetings being held in Miami and the English guy hosting it coming on in a Miami Vice type suit and jumping around like an id--t, now that was embarrassing.

I see he's now an SVP which may explain why things are so bad in HPE if this is the type of person running the place.

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Post ID: @1ibp+1qNkVWNF

Yep. Ever since the pandemic, seems like Wall Street praises mass layoffs rather than raises eyebrows

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