Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

The Stankey Leg

You may have heard of this dance before, but let me tell you what it entails:

You badge in at your designated RTO location.

You put your leg inside.

You turn around and go home and count all the time it took to do that as time worked.

3 days a week until something changes.

John Stankey is leading by example here: wasted time is extremely valuable to him.

Currently, badge-outs are not monitored and indeed can't meaningfully be monitored because they are not required at many locations, nor even consistently required depending on which entrance/exit you use at a given location.

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Post ID: @OP+1qDtcDCV

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To @1mtu+1qDtcDCV who posted "As far as the person working from the break room with no VPN and no company connection Im going to call BS on that. "

OP said ... "There are no desks available so I work in a lunch room with no VPN off of a non COU hotspot, been doing it since November."

Which indicates he is working from a lunch room. connected using non-COU hotspot and with VON on

so what is there to call it a BS?

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Post ID: @3hav+1qDtcDCV

I'm John Stankey and I don't approve of this message. The stankey leg is clearly not something I accept culturally

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Post ID: @3meu+1qDtcDCV

Keep telling yourself they cant track your phone real time. Between asset management and corporate security they can. As far as tracking vehicles they most certainly can track them real time. 15 years ago we had gps installed on the vans and I saw first hand how my at the time manager could pull up and see each and every one of his techs and the path their van took. Idles times, start stops, etc. That was 15 years ago with old clunky technology. If your cool with what youre doing then keep on keeping on but dont mistake laziness for competency. If you manager failed to track a lost iphone its not because it cant be done its because you probably have a cr-p supervisor.
You vastly underestimate the simplicity of pulling the info they need to do what they want. So keep on doing what youre doing it only takes the pressure off of the rest of us when they start chopping the dead weight from the roster.

Last in, first out.

I don't make the rules, I just play by them.

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Post ID: @2oba+1qDtcDCV

Keep telling yourself they cant track your phone real time. Between asset management and corporate security they can. As far as tracking vehicles they most certainly can track them real time. 15 years ago we had gps installed on the vans and I saw first hand how my at the time manager could pull up and see each and every one of his techs and the path their van took. Idles times, start stops, etc. That was 15 years ago with old clunky technology. If your cool with what youre doing then keep on keeping on but dont mistake laziness for competency. If you manager failed to track a lost iphone its not because it cant be done its because you probably have a cr-p supervisor.
You vastly underestimate the simplicity of pulling the info they need to do what they want. So keep on doing what youre doing it only takes the pressure off of the rest of us when they start chopping the dead weight from the roster.

So keep on doing what you're doing it only takes the pressure off of the rest of us when they start chopping the dead weight from the roster.

Do you think it helps? Honestly and I mean no animonsty. I just want to reach MR75 like so many others.

I'll start worrying about GPS tracking when I stop being on the report for "hard breaking". On the report for "hard breaking" day after day in the same GEO location. That GEO location?? The Asphalt hump under the exit gate on my wire center. The same gate that I IDLE the company vehicle across every morning. AT&T used the bargain vendor to install GPS units, and it shakes loose from the zip ties....

GOD bless AT&T and their incompetence.

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Post ID: @2gnz+1qDtcDCV

Keep telling yourself they cant track your phone real time. Between asset management and corporate security they can. As far as tracking vehicles they most certainly can track them real time. 15 years ago we had gps installed on the vans and I saw first hand how my at the time manager could pull up and see each and every one of his techs and the path their van took. Idles times, start stops, etc. That was 15 years ago with old clunky technology. If your cool with what youre doing then keep on keeping on but dont mistake laziness for competency. If you manager failed to track a lost iphone its not because it cant be done its because you probably have a cr-p supervisor.
You vastly underestimate the simplicity of pulling the info they need to do what they want. So keep on doing what youre doing it only takes the pressure off of the rest of us when they start chopping the dead weight from the roster.

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Post ID: @1sok+1qDtcDCV

"They are currently and have been tracking COU device location compared to badge swipes and VPN logs. "

Put the crack pipe down. Nobody in upper mgmt is smart enough to know how to do that and nobody cares. They are simply tracking swipes...1 or 10 a day doesn't matter, location doesn't matter so they sure as duck ain't correlating VPN and COU GPS. Stop watching so much prime time CSI.

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Post ID: @1imp+1qDtcDCV

I can tell the previous poster has no clue what they are talking about if they only knew how insanely difficult it was for this company to pull gps data from our trucks.

Can they feasibly pull COU location data? Of course. Does anyone of any significance have access to that data in a usable format? No. COU data is insanely unreliable.

Badge swipes? Yes of course that's the report available right now. VPN data? That's been used for years; even if it's not currently incorporated into the report. COU data? No chance. Take your tinfoil hat off.

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Post ID: @1fcm+1qDtcDCV

If you dont think they arent tracking you keep doing what youre doing. Go for it. Just have fun waiting on that call or letter telling you youre no longer needed. At this stage in the game the amount of people they were expecting to leave from RTO and job relocations arent enough. With the job relocation exercise and the RTO the next step is tacking and punishment, then if thats not enough itll be monkeying with bonuses. They will get what they want as far as head count reduction.

As far as the person working from the break room with no VPN and no company connection Im going to call BS on that. How can you do anything company related without accessing anything company related? Sure, email and teams works anywhere but zero Sharepoint access? Zero PLE access? You can get some things with RSA login but not enough to do your job. If thats the case your job isnt important enough to care about and itll soon be sent over seas. No offense.

Some of you are vastly underestimating the ability of ATT to waste of ton of money so they can save a few dollars later. Pulling card access logs, VPN access logs, COU device location can all be done with a Bot and its already our systems so cost is minimal. A simple if then else can be created to build a compliance record. Its not rocket science and its happening believe it or not. They want the head count down and they will get it no matter the level of nasty games they play.

I personally dont have a difficult job and make great money so I am going to keep playing the game until they tell me I have to move which is where I draw the line.

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Post ID: @1mtu+1qDtcDCV

Can anyone over Associate Director even spell VPN at AT&T?

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Post ID: @1jjv+1qDtcDCV

They don't track VPN connections, only swipes going into the buildings. I see the reports for my group. There are no desks available so I work in a lunch room with no VPN off of a non COU hotspot, been doing it since November. Report shows 3 swipes a week.

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Post ID: @1urx+1qDtcDCV

They are currently and have been tracking COU device location compared to badge swipes and VPN logs. Do not be fooled. If you badge in and go home to VPN in they have a log of the two not matching. If you badge in leave your COU phone at the office and go home the logs will not match. This will be the next we-pon used to force people to comply or leave. This is by design. I foresee a mass exit in the near future which the company will love because it enables them to push more work over seas.

AT&T cannot even track a company vehicle properly. My coworker lost his COU I phone a few weeks ago. The only thing that was done when he reported it was he was threated with discipline. AT&t could have easily pinged and found the phone.
You give AT&T WAY to much credit in the competency department.
Need to pull card reader access, costs money. Need to pull vehicle GPS, costs money. Need to pull LAN access IP's and hours, Yep. Costs money.
This is not Google. A lot our senior "leadership" could not spell TCP/IP if you gave them a cheat sheet.

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Post ID: @1mgk+1qDtcDCV

It’s okay to fire managers, saves money.

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Post ID: @1hec+1qDtcDCV

“ They are currently and have been tracking COU device location compared to badge swipes and VPN logs. Do not be fooled”

Made up.

Tracking COU location is nonsense. Yes of course it could be done but they do not have those mechanisms in place for this.

VPN time can be monitored, but all that is currently being monitored compliance with the swipe. Any old swipe will do too, as they are not drilling down to make sure the swipe is where it’s supposed ti be.

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Post ID: @1pgy+1qDtcDCV

They have paid The Stank million$ to destroy billion$

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Post ID: @1kfb+1qDtcDCV

You put your right foot in. You put your right foot out. You do the stankey pokey and that’s what it’s all about.

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Post ID: @ayj+1qDtcDCV

If I’m driving all the way downtown I’m staying downtown and hangin with my buds. Not worth getting fired over

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Post ID: @qqq+1qDtcDCV

Somewhere there is a video of John Stankey doing the “Stankey Leg” dance at a PA switch building in Wayne, PA. He was a good sport for the local Mobility Retail Sales team. I don’t think it is on Twitter, but saw in on a monthly ops call.

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Post ID: @hua+1qDtcDCV

They fired a few Directors and a VP in the Atlanta office for badging for each other. Somebody had to rat them out, but they compared badge swipes to their Network Connection/VPN and put the pieces together. They were all called in and fired.

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Post ID: @ydb+1qDtcDCV

They are currently and have been tracking COU device location compared to badge swipes and VPN logs. Do not be fooled. If you badge in and go home to VPN in they have a log of the two not matching. If you badge in leave your COU phone at the office and go home the logs will not match. This will be the next we-pon used to force people to comply or leave. This is by design. I foresee a mass exit in the near future which the company will love because it enables them to push more work over seas.

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Post ID: @ahm+1qDtcDCV

They already track VPN connections. When we were moved back in 2018 CRE told us that if we were connected to office after 2pm it counted as a full day.

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Post ID: @itg+1qDtcDCV

And the OP will complain when he/she is unjustly termed and how bad management is.

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Post ID: @xxk+1qDtcDCV

They’ll track your VPN remote connection too.

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