I am a national RAN employee, not going to say at what level. These rumors of AT&T outsourcing RAN roles to Ericsson or anyone else are pure lies. You are being gaslighted people. AT&T is moving to open RAN to provide opportunities for flexibility in building and managing its 5G network and part of that is training and using its own employees to manage the network. Any posts saying otherwise is total bs.
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I miss the old Ericsson,Nokia,NEC and AudioVox phones from back in the 90s. Now it's 2 sad choices, iphone or samsung.
Can’t wait since they are from a country that is always tops in workers happiness index and benefits. Bring it on!
Some of you will be working for Ericsson.
“They are using att engineers to train Ericsson.”
I’ve witnessed it first hand
I just viewed the new rfds process. They are using att engineers to train Ericsson.
Ok Ericsson’s not taking over just taking all your budget.
“ Hey genius RAN already had 2 waves of surplus in 2023. Operating bare bones now”
You guys are toast..
Did you people not see the John Stankey interview explaining his rationale for doing this...
https://www.lightreading.com/open-ran/at-t-s-ceo-explains-his-open-ran-reasoning
“RAN will be the next wave of surplus. sorry OP, you are being blindsided by whoever handles you.”
Hey genius RAN already had 2 waves of surplus in 2023. Operating bare bones now
When the company says it's safe and there are no "planned" layoffs, it is all a game. Many functions, whether "centralized" HQ or market, will eventually be let go or moved to Ericsson. Common sense and our "leaders" words should paint the picture on the wall.
Duplicate functions in HQ and market, no defined plan, and repetition of "no planned" layoffs should scream, you are going to lose your job. News is out that some are losing their job (off-payroll in February) because they will not move. (RTO firings). Roles for HQ optimization will backfill.
Many mocked my post, saying we are not moving to Ericsson, no single OEM supplier, impacts to RAN and other groups in mobility like MCAC/NFSD. Even saying changes to C&E mobility and what happened, Equipment Engineering goes to HQ. Go figure.....
Take it from someone who has some details. Jobs will be lost and "transitioned" in 2024 and into 2025 as the Ericsson market migrates needed equipment to O-RAN capable and Nokia markets transition to Ericsson equipment.
The first half of 2024 has minimal impacts; once the ball starts moving, staffing will be addressed.
Good luck! Hopefully, you don't laugh it off. Look around, see what is happening, and understand why no one can give you a specific answer and is vague on many things.
“ These rumors of AT&T outsourcing RAN roles to Ericsson or anyone else are pure lies. ”
Said the smiling piano player on the Titanic in ankle deep water…..
RAN will be the next wave of surplus. sorry OP, you are being blindsided by whoever handles you.
T will swap out radios, baseband units at every Nokia site over the course of 36 months (optimistic timeline). This won't actually begin for another 8-12 months given the logistics, site acq and design required. RAN design will transition to Ericsson in 2024 (T layoffs) At the conclusion of the project (36 months from construction start), E will take over RAN performance and optimization services for AT&T. AT&T RAN design engineers have about 6-12 months left and perf/opt engineers have 36-48 months before being let go or transitioned to Ericsson. You are delusional if you think this will not result in major headcount reductions. This is AT&T being At&T 😏
Total cash play for mobility. Needing to shift more capital allocation to support growing fiber build. Big gamble, fingers crossed this all works.
Unless you are Sambar or higher, you probably don’t know the real story.
I'll just leave this here:
https://about.att.com/story/2023/commercial-scale-open-radio-access-network.html
https://www.investopedia.com/nokia-falls-ericsson-rises-as-at-and-t-chooses-ericsson-for-usd14b-deal-8410743
I worked in a central office. The AT&T techs did not come anymore. They had subcontracted it out to Ericson??
training employees to learn ericsson is to make the transition easier and faster. They will end up at ericsson anyway
Not a fact to the poster who claims otherwise. AT&T is planning to spend money training all non Ericsson familiar RAN Engineers on the Ericsson platform. Fact..AT&T intends to leverage cost savings and potential revenue streams from Open RAN and use its market based engineers in both a market and centralized role. Stop spreading BS about T handing the keys to Ericsson, it isn’t happening
I RAN to the unemployment line.
fact: national HQ RAN will be at Dallas, all local RAN contracted to Ericsson.
“Open RAN starts with a vendor that actually supports Open RAN. Ericsson is the vendor which is currently most advanced in the process and implementation of ORAN. Once T installs the Ericsson BBU we are on the way. Moving everything to E now is a byproduct”
What are you talking about? Why Ericsson is swapping Nokia radios if it is open RAN? They can simply integrate Nokia radio to Ericsson BBUs or COTS if they wanted to.
In 5 years 100% Radio, baseband units and software will be Ericsson. They can have couple of Fujitsu radios in some markets but that is all.
“ How is this Open RAN if BBU, Radios and Software is provided by Ericsson.
This is simply an operation Ericsson taking over step by step.
Looks like this is Open RAN which is open to Ericsson only.”
Open RAN starts with a vendor that actually supports Open RAN. Ericsson is the vendor which is currently most advanced in the process and implementation of ORAN. Once T installs the Ericsson BBU we are on the way. Moving everything to E now is a byproduct
How is this Open RAN if BBU, Radios and Software is provided by Ericsson.
This is simply an operation Ericsson taking over step by step.
Looks like this is Open RAN which is open to Ericsson only.
There is as a decent amount of info provided by regional VP as well as Local RAN directors…details still being worked out
Talking points will use terms like “reorganization “.
And
“Your leadership will have more details “