Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

I was impacted in similar way, Can I have more details on "class action lawsuit"??

All of QA resources are in IDC. If someone has H1B visa for CX devops or support work should be very worried. A class action lawsuit is cooking from laid off US citizen to justify granting invalid H1B visas.

I am worried due to my H1 status. Any signs of danger in upcoming days/weeks? Any info?

Larry is stupid to keep running CX. What a waste of money for Oracle?

Unfortunately the deadbeat management has been laying off the most productive employees to help them survive. The product is at a point where it does not matter even if they laid off all.

Titles has lost relevance more than a decade ago.

All management roles from VP to Manager in CX does the same thing, look at bugs, look at dev, assign them to ICs. No other skill required.

Executive mgmt does not know what to do with CX either. They just look at trends from salesforce and internet and try selling the gimmick.

CX customer buy into the non sense or due to other prod dependency and keeping CX barely alive.

Doing such d-mb work many managers has lost relevance in today's market to be even considered for hiring in any other company. I know so many stories where a any management title required change to an IC title in resume to consider for hiring outside.

I know many talented IC's who does better management while also technically good. Poor IC's hard work are paying the bills for A S S H O L E CX Management. These talented IC's when joined other companies quickly grew to higher management position than the S H I T CX managers they were reporting to.

Do not allow to be taken advantage of by these S H I T head blood su-king monsters, call CX management. CX can never become a better place, as it has not been from last 15 years.

More than 50% of the US resources are middle managers. With all the ICs in IDC what are they doing the working hours ?

Newly minted VPs after the layoffs. Title seems to have lost relevance.

Regression tests are written after the product regresses.

@2zcb Isn't that what regression testing is for? Though I suppose that implies that CX has invested in creating regression tests.

CX is cooked. CL's all hands explains reasons for CX current state of affairs.

One org believes in delivering relentlessly new products.

The other org scared to deliver a bug fix as it could destabilize the customer. CL going to have lot of fun with CX.

I heard, CX has been struggling since its inception, failing to compete with Salesforce and lagging significantly behind.

Most of its products are perceived as useless, resulting in low customer satisfaction and counts.

The lack of innovation, and outdated products and tech render it useless in today’s market, for customers and for employees its a career ki-ler.

No EVP survives, constant management reshuffling and middle management is elephant's sh it.

I left within a year. Why would anyone work for CX? I never understood.

Criminal penalties enforcements soon for laying off US citizens and replacing them with H1Bs for support and low end work due to past violations.

Next round in Nov/Dec ?

Look for knowledge transfer sessions to know if you are the target. H1b spared again.

@2xn4 10k to go as of end of August (as stated in the article). In September alone so far they cut 6k. After it goes through EMEA on October, target might be met for this year.

Round2 10K ?

In Singh’s view, that means, “pressure will fall heaviest on legacy application suites, overlapping corporate functions and some international operations.

products and verticals that don’t map to Oracle’s AI/cloud trajectory could be streamlined, thinned down, or even sold off

trim or exit some of its older on-premises support businesses, parts of its legacy applications portfolio, and non-strategic international operations, while doubling down on AI infrastructure

Folks 50+ were laid off in my org. H1Bs doing low end Ops work that a middle schooler can do were kept safe.

Publish the work descriptions of each of the H1B visa holder and let AI make the call if visas are justified for the work or can be done by US citizens. Few VPs need to be let go in order to send the Trump’s message across.

“This suggests H-1B visas are not being used to fill occupational shortages or obtain highly skilled workers who are unavailable in the United States.”

Devops is a classic example. H1B for fetching logs for customer envs. It disgusts me how many US citizens jobs have been replaced.

Reports also indicate that many American tech companies have laid off their qualified and highly skilled American workers and simultaneously hired thousands of H-1B workers. One software company was approved for over 5,000 H-1B workers in FY 2025; around the same time, it announced a series of layoffs totaling more than 15,000 employees. Another IT firm was approved for nearly 1,700 H-1B workers in FY 2025; it announced it was laying off 2,400 American workers in Oregon in July. A third company has reduced its workforce by approximately 27,000 American workers since 2022, while being approved for over 25,000 H-1B workers since FY 2022. A fourth company reportedly eliminated 1,000 jobs in February; it was approved for over 1,100 H-1B workers for FY 2025.

American IT workers have reported they were forced to train the foreign workers who were taking their jobs and to sign nondisclosure agreements about this indignity as a condition of receiving any form of severance. This suggests H-1B visas are not being used to fill occupational shortages or obtain highly skilled workers who are unavailable in the United States.

L1B and B1 visas are a bigger scam.

Trump is set to sign a proclamation Friday asserting that abuse of the H-1B pathway has displaced US workers.

Trump to Add New $100,000 Fee for H-1B Visas.

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Next should criminal penalties for all past violations for claiming no US citizen available to do the job at the time of hiring and retributions for all laid off.

Ratio of H1B\L1Bs to US citizens hired in last 5 years ?

Probably ArithmeticException because division by zero is not allowed.

Hehe… funny .. Only VPs are left in NA.

I don't understand what's the point of such blatant lie? Everyone in CX know there are a lot of engineering in NA left. In fact, in my team, engineering in CX dev was not touched in NA at all, while other locations were destroyed this time around.

What is the ratio VPs to NA IC developer who codes and ships products ?

ArithmeticException because division by zero is not allowed.

“US and CA were not touched shockingly, not yet at least.”

Hehe… funny .. Only VPs are left in NA.

“Utter BS”

You have done selective denial related to IDC resource reporting confirming everything else said on this thread.

Trivandrum IDC VP never allowed IDC resource to report to a manager in US.

Utter BS. In my team in CX dev IDC devs and QA directly reports to our NA manager, who is not even an Indian, for years.

Can AI summarize this thread and respond anonymously to voice survey ? Everything said here seems shockingly real and will help the voice survey.

Trivandrum IDC VP never allowed IDC resource to report to a manager in US. A US resource can have an IDC manager to make that resource redundant and be replaced by IDC resource. IDC VP can send unlimited number of IDC resources to US on L1B visa to replace laid of US citizens.

The game is rigged. It is a shame US born citizens are participating in this and affecting the future of US kids.

No US citizens will exist in the org, future layoffs will happen only be in IDC and will affect the friends and family H1B visa holders. Karma.

May I ask, In you group in CX what's the team size in different countries?

From a long time it's the reverse thats happening. All jobs in CX moving to Trivandrum IDC office with few L1 to support in US timezone.

opposite in our CX group, all IDC except 1 dev were laid off, and US and CA were not touched shockingly, not yet at least.

From a long time it's the reverse thats happening. All jobs in CX moving to Trivandrum IDC office with few L1 to support in US timezone.

Such a shame. Multiple US citizens over age 50 laid off. There is no end to greed.

Cannot justify existence of H1B and L1B visas. Trump should revoke all visas immediately and end blatant abuse of US Citizens.

Are the layoffs over for this year ?

at least 4k layoffs left till end of the year

Are the layoffs over for this year ?

"Regression chasers certify the release, then blame developers when it breaks — true masters of the blame game! Time to lay them off before they confuse the process even more."

Correct. It allows to keep focus on every one else other than the regression chaser. Pretend ownership over someone else work is the job definition but pass the blame if anything goes wrong. Laying off productive developers and staffing roles like regression chasers is self defeating.

Whats the total reduction in CX?

Anyone from CX Devops affected again ? I have lost count of layoffs. I will need therapy ot get over this if I survive.

Cost cutting without innovation is a slow death. You can only slash your way so far before there’s nothing left to grow.

Seems classic indian outsourcing plan. Move under IDC management, force knowledge transfer and then pink slip. Someday karma will visit IDC when AI will have eaten all the software.