Thread regarding Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) layoffs

Life after Layoffs

I just learned of a Dell employee that took his own life. It’s still unconfirmed but there are multiple people providing details that he was part of a recent layoff. As HPE employees brace themselves for impact, I wanted to reach out in case anyone would have any similar inclination. Even if you are merely upset, I want to offer encouragement.

There is definitely life after layoff. A layoff is a temporary setback. Often it’s not even a setback. Let’s face it: HPE is a struggling company. Sometimes you are too afraid to leave a mediocre situation because you have family commitments, you are comfortable and fear uncertainty, or are making a reasonable amount of money. A layoff can be the push you didn’t know you need.

A layoff isn’t a statement of your worth. It means one or more of the following:

  1. The company is desperate and needs to show temporary improvement to P&L.
  2. The company is shifting strategy and your position is not part of that strategy.

Sometimes there are people that are included in the layoff for performance reasons. Be honest with yourself so that you can make the necessary adjustments. Trying to hide shortcomings must be exhausting. Nobody is perfect. Strive to be valuable and you will have inner confidence and peace.

It may take a little while to land something. Don’t be discouraged if it’s not your dream job. You can always leave. Companies give you money in exchange for your labor. As you have seen, they will cancel that agreement at any time. You can as well. It’s actually liberating when you start thinking that way.

Work your network to find a new role. In my experience, people are happy to help if they can.

If you can’t find a decent position as an FTE within a few months, consider contract work. There are many benefits to doing so:

  1. It will keep your skills sharp and enable you to pick up new ones.
  2. You will have fresher stories and more confidence when you interview for other spots.
  3. Because of the lower commitment of hiring a contractor, you may actually find a position that is much more interesting even if it is officially temporary.
  4. Large companies have DEI initiatives that my be discriminatory against you. They may hire contractors to do the necessary work if they can’t find someone to check their boxes. Use this to your advantage.
  5. Your flexibility will open other doors you hadn’t thought about.

When you are back on your feet a bit, arrange your life so that you aren’t so dependent on your job. You may not be able to set yourself up to not have to work again, but you can make it so you don’t have to work for a short/medium period of time. Save, invest, and make sure your expenses are well within your means. Then be ruthless with companies when it comes to compensation. Always look out for #1. They aren’t looking out for you.

I’m not just talking happy bullsh-t. I speak from experience.

Remember, a job is just a job. It doesn’t define you. It may hurt a little at first, but even Mike Tyson took some punches directly to the face. Take your lumps and move forward. People will have tremendous respect for your resilience.

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Post ID: @OP+1p5anMlw

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Must be the indeed whisperer or talking out your a-s, a MAJORITY of the infra jobs out there are 60-80K, and the ones above 100K require 10 years plus enterprise experience with coding, in one or multiple languages, as a developer, not sure how those two tie together. I use python and Ansible (i know, not really coding language, but still requires some skill), but not my primary role and have yet to get a single call back for even the 80K jobs. Its rough out there, the economy is not good and the jobs that are out there pay sh-t for money

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Post ID: @10mun+1p5anMlw

I don't know where exactly you're looking - Pi---d off HPE Slave - but all infrastructure related jobs I'm seeing (and there's a lot of them - indeed.com is your friend) are starting at 120K+/year and only require 5-7 years of experience.

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Post ID: @10hnv+1p5anMlw

I have been with HPE for 7 years, 2 contractor and 5 as FTE with a Senior Tech Consultant title, mainly doing infrastructure related work.

I fear i will be part of a WFR batch soon and I am severely depressed about the job outlook. Every infra related job offer above 80K I see is requiring 10+ years experience, in addition to 10+ years experience with some form of coding, java/python/php/ruby... And a lot require a masters on top of the experience for roles over $100K

Just disconcerting when i will most likely have to take a 50k+ pay cut just to get another tech job, IF i can even get that 80K job, which from the 100% rejection rate so far, is not looking too good.

Just wanted to say I can see why the employee laid off from Dell did what he did...

As for the OP's comment about rearranging your life to not be dependent on your job, that is SO FAR out of touch with reality. Wages are going down while inflation is still up, that is not possible for 98% of the audience... Just insensitive and tone deaf statement.

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Post ID: @Wbhn+1p5anMlw

Thank you for the kind words Alan May!

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Post ID: @2ban+1p5anMlw

Thank you for this post. It is both eloquent and accurate. I speak from experience, as well, having been impacted twice in my career by WFR and both times well above quota. And both times it turned out for the better. Once I landed with a new company, HP, then once within HP that changed the trajectory of my career. Wishing everyone the best managing a very tough situation. 🙏

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Post ID: @2ziu+1p5anMlw

@1xso+1p5anMlw

Losing your job is one of the top stressors that affect mental health. Sure they might have other minor issues, but sudden job loss can drive people to su----e.

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Post ID: @1yxn+1p5anMlw

@1xso+1p5anMlw

Perhaps but I was also trying to put myself in their shoes. I am lucky to have a financial cushion so my layoff didn’t really bother me. If you don’t have that luxury and have kids in college or other obligations it can be extremely stressful. Some people could lose their house or suffer other consequences.

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Post ID: @1vlc+1p5anMlw

I think that most people who take their life after being WFRd have a lot more issues than just being let go.

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Post ID: @1xso+1p5anMlw

HPE has gotten worse but it’s still not as bad as Dell. Most of the people that I know who jumped over to Dell, regretted it and left after less than a year. They’ll su-k the knowledge out of you for their big project and lay you off because your salary is too high.

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Post ID: @1ktr+1p5anMlw

After I got laid off, I found out who my friends were.

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Post ID: @1srn+1p5anMlw

@1uck+1p5anMlw
That is toxic positivity which some of the management exudes. I have seen most of it in the GL side of HPE.

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Post ID: @1zjg+1p5anMlw

I remember back in 2002 whe n HP started the rolling layoffs. There was a guy on the Westcoast named leslie.
He was laid off and ki-led himself in a garden shed a day later. I'm reminded of leslie every year when layoffs come around. I will take this moment to remember him. He would make us all laugh in the SAP support meetings.

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Post ID: @1vbi+1p5anMlw

@jobmarketsuckssoimstuck

OP here. Think about what you are saying. If you are serious at all, please seek help. It’s just a job. Make time to work out and/or have fun. Some hobby or something socialable. F this job.

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Post ID: @1qdd+1p5anMlw

I’ve been here a year and the culture is positive to your face, but second guess you behind your back. I haven’t felt this depressed about myself and sui-idal in a decade.

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Post ID: @1uck+1p5anMlw

Well said, much needed, thank you

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Post ID: @pqv+1p5anMlw

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