Thread regarding CVS layoffs

first of all very sorry for your job loss. I totally agree with what you said. meetings are all this BS. not sure why they cannot let people do their work. And all the Heart at Work stuff is all trash. who cares about it anyway. do your work, encourage people to collaborate and get the work done. the values in action thing is another joke. there is also no career development whatsoever.

My favorite corporate bloat emails are the ones begging me to donate money to the PAC scam.

Sorry about the 11 minute layoff .

Anyone over the age of 40 who may be laid off please know OWBA . Laws that help prevent age discrimination .

Aetna employee here . Someone said it … all I want is dependable co workers . You will absolutely NOT get that at Aetna. We are so disjointed . When a cr-ppy employee holds more power than a great employee … Houston we have a problem . Aetna is so bloated with sub par employees nothing moves , projects stall or get nixed because they hold no company value .
Most Aetna employees I come across are fed up with the BS, nepotism, and all the other bullish!7 that gets thrown at them .

Our unit is so bloated we have more leaders than staff it seems. They just keep pushing us to do more . The unit would improve so much with help from the leaders .
Our unit just hired a handful of people . Like literally just started .
Why? Why not just reorg all the bloat to cover positions . Put those low level people that are stretching into lead roles back on the floor to improve numbers . Instead we will hire people who look like a deer in the headlights who can’t help the unit for months.
Who ever makes those decisions should be laid off

Dude - state's mandate some of that training. That's why there are different modules depending on where your reports live.

I’m gonna pushback on the comment about public being responsible for the trainings due to fear of lawsuits. Yes, a one time training as an employee emphasizing appropriate vs inappropriate behavior I’ll take as acceptable. I still think it’s ridiculous because it implies we are all in kindergarten, but okay I get it. There is no reason whatsoever to take this training more than one time period. None. You either understand right or wrong, or you don’t. I just find it extremely insulting on all levels in terms of my character and intelligence. The message implies they don’t trust a single employee to remember or know how to act in a professional manner. Do we sit down with our kids once a year and say “Hey Johnny, remember now you need to respect people of all s-xes, races etc and here is what’s acceptable and what’s not. I know we had this exact talk when you were 13 and you’re now 28, but just want to mark sure that after 15 times in a row you understand how to behave properly.” Think of how absurd that promise is. It’s mbarassing as a society and it prevents absolutely nothing.

Playing devil's advocate. I have always believed in meritocracy -- maybe to a fault. However, I've worked in multiple corporate environments and have observed that a lot of time merit is not what yields elevated positions. I think representation does matter.

As someone that has been the only one in a room that looks like me more times than I can remember, the way I experience the world is different. That's not a bad thing. It allows me see things from a perspective that my colleagues may not fully appreciate, just as I may not fully appreciate their lived experienced. The thing is, my colleagues have more similar experiences than my own.

I did/ do believe that aetna/ cvs had a lot of senior management was out of touch with a worldly view. I'm not alluding to being "woke," but actually to some leadership not recognizing the talent that well-educated and experienced people bring to the table if given the opportunity to be there.

A lot of time these leadership teams don't recognize the value and background of a person from rural, urban, and suburban America.

Until you've lived and walked in the shoes of our members that live in rural or undeserved areas that know what it means to travel 1.5hr just to get to dialysis while they're wait-listed at a local clinical, or counseling at-risk youth about PrEP medication when they live miles away from se-ual health offices -- it is hard to understand how the company can actually make a meaningful impact.

The company cannot take the same old approach to healthcare and insurance. The company must be nimble and open to process improvement. Healthcare is ripe for disruption, and if we're relying on holdovers from yesteryear -- the solutions will not be innovative. The greater public does not associate CVS/ Aenta with innovation. If we continue to market the same tired initiatives, the company will be relegated to the history books.

I saw your note and agree.
I was with Caremark and cut back in 2010. They did get rid of people with duplicate jobs as CMK kept 3 adjudication platforms going which was a joke. Likely the same with multiple Part D programs.

But the cuts were specific with older, more experienced, more expensive people getting hit each time usually they were senior managers or directors. You should see the severance doc you had to sign saying it was not age discrimination.

Following that playbook it seemed about 4-5 months later the VPs who did the dirty work were looking for other opportunities. Expect the same.

This time it has been almost the same from that playbook except Ly--h announced it first.

When Aetna cut back in 2016 or 2017 they offered early retirement with 1 year salary. CVS tops it out at 26 weeks.

Looking at the list on the Providence Journal a few VPs are on the list.

Bravo!!! I am sure the powers that be were not thrilled I would not put pronouns etc on my signature line. Pardon me but I was always told keep your personal life, personal, and never bring politics to work.

Well diversity eliminates holidays too since some people never had their day off, now no one does. Good bye Christmas, Thanksgiving, Independence Day, New Year's, Labor and Memorial Days...

The public is responsible for all the trainings and all the emails because of all the lawsuits. Americans are so sue happy the company has to protect themselves from the millions and millions of lawsuits.

But I agree on the other points.

Very well said. Companies care more about being woke than employees' experience nowadays. It is sad.