Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Oracle: Where decades old software companies go to die

Oracle is very much an accounting an legal firm that has found its niche by gathering together old dying technology and milking the customer base to the last possible dollar.

Its effective (at least in the short run) as its stock is at an all time high last I checked 127 dollars

It takes a lot of effort, tenacity, and resolve (never give up mentality) to innovate and bring new products to market. Over 90% of new technical companies fail to survive. The few who do often fail to innovate and survive in the long run.

Oracle at the hands on the CFO's who became president and co-CEO and now CEO ... crafted an idea of acquiring companies and laying off all but the thinnest of support layers. If your plan is to never innovate but continue to charge for support and services on an existing customer base this is the way.

Think about it, the hardest thing for a customer to do is get off of old technology. They are locked in unless they invest in legacy modernization. Basically Oracle has found that the niche of the Vulture is a very nice lucrative niche.

Simply circle about an old dying dinosaur of a tech company then swoop in cut off all development and start feasting on the carcass. The street loves it. Oracle stock is at an all time high. The two highest costs of employees are technical engineers and sales people... if you don't need new customers just fire them or lay them off and and feast on existing the customer base.

Its a brilliant strategy as the cloud takes off and NoSQL eats up the database market, you do as Larry suggested in 2010

"We’ll make cloud computing announcements because, you know, if orange is the new pink, we’ll make orange blouses. I mean, I’m not gonna fight this thing … well, maybe we’ll do an ad. Uh, I don’t understand what we would do differently in the light of cloud computing, other than market … you know, change the wording on some of our ads."

https://techmonitor.ai/technology/cloud/he-said-what-5-things-larry-ellison-actually-said-about-cloud-4563323

Oracle never really built new datacenters for cloud, instead it prefers to rent from Equinix and let the customer pay for the infrastructure. Today after all the marketing hype Oracle has 1.6% of the cloud business. It seems Larry did exactly what he said he would. After all the hype... just about nada in cloud and its almost entirely only in the United States.

See the link below for break down of the so called Oracle Cloud
https://enlyft.com/tech/products/oracle-cloud

And now they do the same thing for the next buzzword generative AI. Have some fan boys write a few marketing hype articles and deceive the non tech savvy masses.

https://www.investors.com/research/ibd-stock-of-the-day/oracle-stock-database-giant-looks-for-ai-boost-in-cloud-infrastructure-business/

Oracle Looks For AI Boost In Cloud Infrastructure Business
Oracle is the IBD Stock of the Day as the large-cap software stock finds support at its 21-day exponential moving average. Oracle stock could be actionable if it gets a strong bounce from its 10-week moving average as well.
He also notes the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure business, or OCI, has been a bright spot.
"The continued execution of OCI has led to improving investor sentiment, and ongoing cost cuts around Cerner should be accretive to margins as management team continues to deliver on top and bottom line goals," Thill said in a recent note to clients.
He added: "As OCI grows in scale and AI workloads begin to materialize, we believe the stock deserves a rerating more in line with its industry peers."
Oracle's multiyear business restructuring has moved the database software giant solidly into cloud computing. In addition, Oracle bought health care giant Cerner in 2022, continuing an acquisition spree that has spanned decades.

With 1.6% of the cloud market Oracle claims to have a "bright spot with OCI" and that they know what they are doing with generative AI.... But they mention an Acquision spree of non cloud companies that make the news for all f the mass layoffs.

Its insanely obvious what their true plan is. "Say anything, do nothing." ORCL... they have tons of lawsuits over deception, but its hard to sue and claim damages when the stock keeps going up. Bernie Madoff and his Ponzi scheme lasted almost 4 decades, but when it fell it fell hard.

Oracle used to be a tech company but changed course... it will leave a crater on the tech landscape when its all said and done. Who knows when the game will end?

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I've read this post more than any other. It's so good.
Especially the phrase "Say anything, do nothing"
I don't understand how they get away with doing nothing. The VA situation with Cerner is serious, people died as a result of doing nothing. If I remember correctly the last time Oracle Cerner promised to fix the issues which was the second time, Oracle doesn't care. I'm not sure anything has been done. Oracle has lost govt contracts before and they seem not to care. Since nobody at Oracle cares about the deaths that they caused, it seems like the govt would sanction Oracle. Forbes and Marketwatch don't get paid to write what's actually going on. However, Mid mgmt needs to be disclosed. Maybe Oracle setting them up to fall.

It seems like Oracle is stripping Oracle down to the bare bones like she does her acquisitions. Same patterns. What will be left?

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https://www.trustpilot.com/review/oracle.com

What blows my mind, oracle is publicly traded company. All reports from financial media are glowing. Of course, we know Oracle pays for these reports. Wouldn’t it be easier and cost effective if they used that money to give customers what they are paying for? Do the right thing and get good reviews? Oracle needs Mid mgmt that knows how to develop and give good customer service.
This is just a big scam.

Truth it doesn’t seem like Oracle has no intentions to correct their faulty products.
So unhappy customers hire an attorney Oracle pays, lawyers get half.

Again it would be so much more cost effective if all that money was used to do things right The court should make Oracle correct things.

Also, the SEC needs to be involved since this publicly traded company. LE had to do things right when he founded Oracle.
When and how did it get to this. The SEC needs to investigate and require Oracle to cleanup the corrupt mgmt, get ths DOJ to prosecute those that have broken the law & require to fix products or either recall faulty product, refund costs including damages to businesses & individuals

The mid mgmt they are blatantly abusing employees need to be terminate and sued personally by employees in addition to suing Oracle. Take back all that mid mgmt has taken from employees and Oracle. Oracle needs to sue those mid mgmt abusers.

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“ reported financial numbers are fake ? “

No, but they are architected.

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https://www.trustpilot.com/review/oracle.com

Ahhh This is just Oracle being Oracle. Back when they were the only game in town, they could get away with this. Now that they are just another bit player, they STILL think they can get away with this. Customers tolerated this back then because they had to, now they don't have to.

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Great to know Oracle's cloud offerings and support are so rock solid! I'll sleep better from now on. LOL

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https://www.trustpilot.com/review/oracle.com

Jul 19, 2023
Machine deleted
We claimed free tier machine (for the first free 300$) and later on we wanted to pay for it, because we knew 300$ isn't enough for us. Everything was fine for a few days, when one morning our account has been suspended and machine deleted. Waste of time, we lost all files and we didnt do any backups because we thought nothing will happen in the first days. This host is the world hosting We could ever imagine. I would rather pay for cloud/azure/aws
Mar 26, 2023
Can't login into cloud anymore, Account deleted?!
Today i wanted to login to OCI as always but i get the error "NotAuthenticated". All of my server are offline/i can not reach them via ssh. THERE WAS NO NOTIFICATION BEFOREHAND, ALL MY DATA ON THE SERVERS seem to be LOST.
There's NO SUPPORT because my account does not exist anymore and they want that i create a new account with upgraded plan!
I therefore will not use OCI anymore and can not recommend you to use it. There are plenty of alternatives, AWS, Google etc. that don't delete your account without any notification! Luckily my application wasn't live yet and i made some old backups. Will switch to one of the renowned Cloud providers to host my application.
Apr 15, 2023
This POS decision was a terrible…
This POS decision was a terrible mistake. After using MICROS 3700 we decided to move to Oracle simphony Period after 1 to 2 years of implementation we have pulled all equipment and are switching to a competitor. This is not a true cloud base solution. >They have integrated a cloud solution with much of the backbone of Oracle EMC, which is just an application integration is done, poorly and consistently. We’re having significant errors that Oracle just recognizes and does not fix. Customer support is poor.
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lol. Are you also suggesting that all the Oracle customers (including large and small companies, current and new customers) and their evaluation teams are stupid ? Or are you saying all the reported financial numbers are fake ?

I am not saying anything. The lawsuits and customer complaints speak for themselves

https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/lawsuit-oracle-misled-investors-on-cloud-sales-growth

https://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Oracle

Posted by Hanil405
7/14/23 9:22AM
we have oracle PBCS service pay a lot of money and support is the worst you can get. we were migrated to OCI.. users might lose access next week and it has been a month since I am trying to contact someone from Oracle support to help with issues related to this migration. The support staff I talked to with their ticket system were also confused about the new OCI interface and it is really hard to get to talk to anyone.. Tickets and chats go in circle and waste of time... Their support person from Mexico scheduled 2 zoom calls and she was late 40 minutes for both..
Happy to talk to any Oracle manager who is willing to talk to their customers..
Posted by Sean
11/1/21 1:27AM
Worst support ever encountered. Workday, SAP seems 2000 times better.
1. Never bother to put detail in your ticket, they won't go through.
2. You will never get your short simple answer. They bring you to the universe then confuse you.
3. No sense of urgency even your whole production is down.
4. No production knowledge and no logical sense.
5. They will show you their teams dont talk to each other. If it happen your issue touches other area, they will ask you to raise another ticket to check it by yourself.
6. I can say 85% tickets with the buggy system has no resolution. We have to come out with workaround by ourselves.
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lol. Are you also suggesting that all the Oracle customers (including large and small companies, current and new customers) and their evaluation teams are stupid ? Or are you saying all the reported financial numbers are fake ?

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It’s unbelievable. Thanks for taking the time to share info. It’s wrong to keep customers bound to subscriptions when they aren’t getting anything for it meaning current (present

  • day) updates. Many are using software from another company (can’t honestly say competitor) because Oracles product so out date yet they are having to pay Oracle for nothing. What more does Larry want to do people - he’s already #4 richest person - he and Bill Gates can’t be happy being so evil. This life is temporary eternity is forever. They won’t be able to buy themselves out of he-l.

There are those in mid mgmt that are doing the same - taking from people what is not theirs. What happened to integrity?
It’s kinda sad. Wouldn’t trade places with any of these people.
LE is not going to happy find out that mid mgmt has taking from his company. Only LE can take from others to buy back stock. It’s all just a big cluster dishonest scam.

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