Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Is that really true?

It is often said that managers normally do not have much influence over who will be selected when RIFs happen, but I find it hard to believe that.

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Post ID: @OP+1mjibr3s

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M5s and higher DO have input for who gets the axe.

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Post ID: @5vim+1mjibr3s

As a director I usually had a say. Vp or up makes the final call.

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Post ID: @5fkb+1mjibr3s

As a former manager, I can say it is true for front line managers. Decisions about who gets laid off come from higher up in an employee's org but their input is only suggestions. HR has the final call.

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Post ID: @5gxx+1mjibr3s

It’s true. Anyone saying otherwise is in a very unique and rare position if true.

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Post ID: @2tgg+1mjibr3s

I was an M3 manager for many years and had to do several rounds of layoffs. Not once did I have any input as to who was let go. It was all decided for me but I had to do the dirty work of telling people. Thank god I'm not there any more.

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Post ID: @1hcn+1mjibr3s

M3 only given a list the night before or morning of. Was a part of the past 4 RIF’s. This is 100% true.

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Post ID: @1lah+1mjibr3s

This is absolutely true. I’ve been through many RIF’s as a manager and had no say at all.

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Post ID: @1rlq+1mjibr3s

If it’s performance based they certainly know about it. The random RIF’s that go around - from everyone I know that have been a part of them from an M aspect they’ve told me they just get a list and have no input. I have no reason to doubt any of them.

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Post ID: @1fyf+1mjibr3s

The answer it is that it depends. If your manager is in HR or an SVP, GM or chief of staff, they have a say as long as you report directly into any of the above in some way

When the marketing blood bath happened before Maytard no one had a say

An M3 would not have visibility. M5 and barely do unless under special circumstances

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Post ID: @bez+1mjibr3s

M3 and had to layoff 3 directs in October. Had no say and only found out 48 hours before

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