Thread regarding 3M layoffs

3Ms final chapter - what this week means

Someone put forth a jolly story about 3M and the various "captains" that have steered mother mining off course into being a shipwreck.

My take over 35 years plus two years of retirement is more sober, though I may enjoy some good ipa(s) tonight on a beautiful evening.

  1. The Firing this week of so many MTEs in huge numbers means 3M is throwing in the towel on bringing many new products to market. Perhaps it's a recognition that the pipeline isn't as loaded as it used to be. But my take is the company is on the verge of being broken or sold off into pieces. Let the new owners decide if they want the MTEs back or if they want to just run the course with the current products. This would be like an NFL team deciding its too cash strapped and can't afford to pay the draft picks so it's going low level free agency from now on.
  1. The mass firings via TEAMS are not a one time event but like the way things will be when the next wave of anywhere IMHO from 3 to 5 more get cut in August. The company doesn't care about optics anymore, only in making the spins or sell offs bare bones on costs and hope they can find a merger partner or acquirer. The simplest way to cut is mass firings. Ugly and very unlike the 3M of the 1980s when I started working. A very sad ending to a wonderful company.
  1. Tireman was hired not only to fire thousands but break up the old structure so that the costs of reassigning people will be easy when not a lot of people are left to reassign. It's a dark day everywhere but I have to believe this week at the Center may have been the worst ever.
  1. Vales exit was a shocker (deserved yes, but not anticipated). Roman has been a complete zombie for almost 2 years. Even WS sees this and seems to be challenging his :playbook. All this exit did is change WHO but not WHAT will happen in the break-up. Maybe the WHEN got pushed back 6 months but the new (outsider, likely) will be given a short leash by the board to break up. And don't be fooled when Mike told investors that they're went any more plans to spin other than HC. Monish is probably running the show and feeding Mikey just the drivel he needs to know.
  1. The real wild cards are A. The fate of the pension..which spin gets the assets and liabilities. And B. Retiree medical. When the company just drops it and tells you to find your own way. They are under no obligation to keep this even for Portfolio I folks.

Would appreciate any other views whether from the inside or those who have left.

But the Harvard Business Review will be studying 3M and GE in 5 years. Kodak is old news now.

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Post ID: @OP+1mL7yK78

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Let’s contain the unnecessary drama. Its a bad time for the company. Clearly retired dinos have nothing better to do. Well maybe popping cheese curds…

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Post ID: @1jaw+1mL7yK78

The longer it takes to break up remain-co the better. They may keep giving the retiree medical support (until Medicare this is critical for people). Once remain-co becomes many-pieces-co none of the spun companies will want to pay for retiree medical. It can be changed or stopped anytime.

And spin-off is not going to give you any more additions to your 3M pension. It will be like you left 3M and went to work for another company. Monish will see to that as the HCBG CEO. He hates costs and paying benefits, except to himself and his cronies.

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Post ID: @1sod+1mL7yK78

Want to add one other point. We know of a lot of people who lost something (GESPP, sanity, rtc.) as this company went down to the depths of the ocean after a 120-plus year run.

Besides tireman, monish, jayshree and a few other winners, the real winners have been 3Ms competitors. They've had the pick of the litter of some talented people who know their business and were already successful at 3M, before the company's descent to the bottoms started with the innovation decline (starving R&D) under mcnerney.

These people are not just talented but highly motivated to show 3M they were wronged. Unlike years ago, when 3M had a very strong competitive intelligence group that monitored new competitor products closing for patent violations, this group has likely been gutted too. But not before they help bring the lawsuit over earplugs that opened up the whistle-blower complaint about aearos earplugs.

This problem is only going to get worse with the spins because they won't have the central staffing to root out these kind of patent infringements that 3M has done.

The worst part isn't that the competitors beat 3M but rather that 3M destroyed itself with the ill-fated move to be a company driven by quarterly earnings "best" vs the long haul of innovation and market superiority.

Time for an IPA!

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Post ID: @vrt+1mL7yK78

What you describe is exactly what others are taking about as well. A sad ending to a once amazing company. Split up like Dow DuPont. 3M Chemical, CBG spin-off for Scotch and Command, and 3M SIBG/TEBG.

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Post ID: @oni+1mL7yK78

They'll go bare minimum employees, probably less than 50% of current, automate as much as they can to reduce some bleeding till they lose their legal battles, go bankrupt from the billions, sell their assets, and that'll be the end imo. I'd give it less than 2 years but I'm just a d-mb peasant at the bottom.

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