Thread regarding IBM layoffs

@hy @OP This is true. But if you live in the US, what they WILL do and HAVE done to many good people is tell an employee "you are being separated for performance. Your last day is today." They will pay you out for the remainder of the pay period and your insurance will be valid until the end of the month. So - if they can spin up some story about your performance for whatever reason they can come up with that keeps them from being sued, they could technically fire you right up through mid December. As someone else pointed out - stay away from IBM. It's a toxic culture of fear.

Hehe, this is what happens when you work at IBM… you always end up being sc--wed.

Stay away from IBM… it is a disgusting employer.

@OP, no RAs in the December. People affected have to be terminated before the end of 2026. An RA means the employee is notified on month in advance before the termination.

I wish all these IBM sales people would stop calling me. I'm not buying your sh-t. My company's not buying your sh-t. No means no. N O.

@e9 raised a good point. We should have a poll. Who is the most loathsome?

RT?
AK?
JK?

add your fav.

@c8 Too bad we just can't get rid of RT. He's such an arrogant id!ot.

Definitely q4 layoffs in “sales” but I think it will
Mostly hit marketing which shouldn’t be in sales at all but that’s how RT and RG wanted it so they could gut marketing to the bone. So I wouldn’t worry if you’re really in SALES sales. RT thinks sellers should be their own marketers and just push product until clients can’t take it any more.

Life isn't fair. Especially when working in sales at IBM. Deal with it.

You don’t keep your commission. They keep it and expect you to thank them and praise them for trying to help you.

I can only speak for the US regarding your PIP fears. Not sure how it works elsewhere. If you fail your PIP (it's not you that failed FYI, its IBM) then in the US you get 1 month severance and a set number of subsidized COBRA months - all contingent on you signing something that says you wont sue IBM. IBM has been working on this since last year. There's a reason they forced managers to rank a certain number of people into the bottom 15% regardless of actual performance. PIPs are the new RA. They cant PIP everyone because they wouldn't be able to justify it and they would be rightfully sued...but they'll PIP as many people as they can. If you lose your IBM job, be thankful because in the long run you'll be better off. That place is toxic as h3ll.