Thread regarding 3M layoffs

If you’re a worker bee, don’t bother dreaming about LTIP

The announcement that there would be no more LTIP for anyone below the T6/Director level, delivered shortly after Roman’s retirement, was admirably clear: if you’re a worker bee, don’t bother dreaming about LTIP. That nectar is now reserved for the management hive only. Why? Well, let’s consult the sacred tablets of hard data.

Over the past 15 years or so, promotion velocity in management has been running at roughly 1.5 to 2 times the speed of the bench. You know, the people actually doing the messy little work of inventing the technology and shaping the product ideas ! Meanwhile, every Tom, Di-k, and Susan who somehow managed to ditch the bench ( mostly utter failures as technical folks) , then climb into management after hitting T4 or T4.5, can apparently fast-track their way to Director in 12 to 15 years with astonishing efficiency. A kind of corporate alchemy, really.

By contrast, if you remain in a nonleadership role ; 3M’s charming euphemism for “the people still making things happen”, then after 15 to 20 years, your reward may be a T5, if the stars align and the universe feels generous. And for the tiny fraction, perhaps 2 to 3 percent, there is the distant and glittering possibility of reaching T6 or above, where the LTIP finally appears like a mythical prize at the end of an especially uneven race.

Unless this issue, among several others, is addressed, morale will continue its slow and consistent descent. It would hardly be surprising if Q2, Q3 2027 brings a lively exodus from the T4.5 to T5 ranks. Perhaps a little alarming attrition will finally send a message to the highest levels..... much like during Covid, when a wave of technical talent left 3M and, quite sensibly, never came back. To its credit, 3M eventually did learn something from that episode and made promotions a bit easier from T3 to T4 and T4 to T4.5. A touching example of institutional memory, however briefly it may last.

@15y+1m5adfe2d said it perfectly.


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Post ID: @OP+1m5vqcqw1

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I just checked the numbers in my organization in CRL. About 3.5% of the technical staff would be eligible for LTIP, as compared to roughly 45% of the management team. As has been observed many times on this forum, the promotion rates on the management side of the ladder are comparatively astronomical, even in cases where the majority of those reporting up to the individual trust neither their integrity nor their technical acumen.

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Post ID: @1bd+1m5vqcqw1

I talked with a currently employed contractor working at the 3M campus in St Paul MN on 10/30/2026. He said that all of the IT Staffing were gone that did infrastructure, for on site service for the campus and were all replaced by India workers imported for the replacing of long time American workers. A few managers overlook operations but outsourced the entire data center to India. On site IT was also replaced. 3M is a liar about this and the upper management does not care about Americans, or America. They only care about profit. Cutting Americans.

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Post ID: @12b+1m5vqcqw1

Yep, let those in management figure out how to make the next gen products. Come on you guys...show some leadership.

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Post ID: @t9+1m5vqcqw1

There is no dream there...the place is a living nightmare. But that place in your rearview....

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Post ID: @hg+1m5vqcqw1

Whatever it is. Let those directors & VPs drive the results themselves since they are rewarded handsomely with LTI. They are paid to take on the stress from BB & company. Be it.

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Post ID: @dh+1m5vqcqw1

@OP

Yup. 12 to 15 years for those in management track to reach Director level (equivalent to T6), pretty much a 100 % success rate.

For the working class, it is at best a T5 level in the same time frame, that too in the best case scenario. T6 takes 25 years or more, and usually 5 % or lower folks will ever make it !

Dual ladder at it's finest !!

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