Thread regarding Comcast layoffs

The RTO threat only works on the people you can't afford to lose afford to lose

If you haven't looked closely at the new RTO change, here is what it actually does and who it actually affects.

The expectation has been 4 days a week. It has never been written down anywhere. It is not a formal policy, just what everyone was told. In practice, the bar was an average of 2, because PTO, sick days and other time off are not excluded. Every day out lowers your average, so 2 is what people planned around and 2 is what people met.

Leadership has now raised that bar to an average of 3 and applied it retroactively to Q1, Q2 and Q3. Those quarters are over. People followed the expectation they were given, and those same months are now being measured against a number that did not exist at the time, tied to a policy that still is not documented. No one can go back and be in the office on a Tuesday in March. A retroactive standard does not change behavior. It only penalizes it after the fact.

Fall short and you are "not in good standing." That means no promotion and no ability to apply for a role in any other organization within the company. You are effectively frozen in place over a rule that was never put on paper.

Consider who that actually affects.

The people who are not coming into the building made their decision during the first RTO push. They decided then that a promotion here was not worth it. This changes nothing for them. Restricting internal mobility means even less, because significant layoffs and company wide changes are coming. Many people do not expect to be here a year from now, and no one plans a career move inside a company they expect to leave.

The reasons are visible to everyone. The stock has fallen badly. Customers are leaving. Our products are interchangeable with every competitor's, and customers know it. Trust in leadership is gone. Disengaged employees will not start caring because of an unwritten expectation that keeps changing. They can see where this is heading and are planning their exit.

That leaves one group this policy truly reaches, the high performers who still care. The people who kept showing up, kept pushing and still wanted to build a career here. They are the only ones still invested in a future at this company, which makes them the only ones a promotion penalty can hurt.

This is not an isolated decision. It is a pattern from our executive team. Poor decision after poor decision, with the same behavior each time. No one at the top takes ownership of the results. No one asks why the buildings are empty. No one addresses the product, the customer experience or how employees are treated. The response is always a new rule, a new threat or another round of cuts. At this point it looks as though leadership is dismantling the company from the top. The stock has suffered. Customers have walked. The culture is gone. Now the talent is next, starting with the last people who genuinely cared.

To the executives who made this decision, this is on you. You did not lose the office. You lost the people. They stopped coming in because they were given no reason to, and rather than examine why, you chose a penalty, never documented it and made it retroactive anyway. The people you are pressuring are not the ones you should be worried about. The ones who still care are, and you have just given them every reason to stop. When your best people leave, do not call it attrition. Call it what it is. The result of your decisions.

To fellow employees reading this, if you never wanted the promotion, this does not affect you. Hold your ground. If you did want one, think carefully about whether this company deserves your best years. A lot of us don't think it will be here long enough to matter.


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Post ID: @OP+1m47fm8r9

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I have been going to the office a minimum of 4 days a week, many a times 5 going back for months or years, does that make me exempt from the layoffs , I don't think so, so tired of this nonsense. I have colleagues who live close to work but are virtual because they jumped on the gravy train during covid. looks like all of them will be safe while they reprimand the rest of us who chose to be in the office for teamwork and collaboration. We should have the same rules for everyone. Management is a wu-s to not even document the policy anywhere or have an all hands call with the employees, not just senior management and let the message get lost in translation. RTO is not going to fix anything, fix the damn leadership who have been making bad business decisions and have fancy titles that they truly don't deserve. There is no merit in this company , only the bootlickers and politicians get promoted , where as the people that do the actual work will be on the chopping block. Just take a look at past layoffs, how many of the senior folks got rehired by their buddies and assigned a different team , they created an ED, SD, D position while the others without a godfather are on unemployment benefits. Stock is at a 13 year low, and we are focused on RTO instead of fixing the business.

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Post ID: @z8+1m47fm8r9

@eq is missing the entire point. Maybe the problem isn’t employees “whining” or refusing to follow expectations. Maybe the problem is that there is no written policy to follow, and different leaders are communicating different rules to their teams.

That is a leadership and communication problem, not an employee problem.

When employees ask for clarity and the response is to call it “whining,” that avoids the real issue. If leaders want accountability from employees, they should start by clearly defining the expectation, documenting it, communicating it consistently, and holding everyone to the same standard. Blaming employees for confusion created by inconsistent leadership is exactly the kind of behavior leaders should be self reflecting on, especially while the company is already struggling.

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Post ID: @fz+1m47fm8r9

@eq If there is a policy, please provide this group with a link to it. Policies are written and accessible so employees can understand what is expected of them.

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Post ID: @fy+1m47fm8r9

@eq Your idea of the expectation is not what our management all the way to VP communicated to us. For the last year or so we've had to average 2 days a week over the course of the quarter. They have a dashboard and it was clearly documented and we get notices when we are close to the cutoff so we can adjust if needed. Today we were told about this retroactive change, so perhaps you don't know everything about every department at Comcast?

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Post ID: @ev+1m47fm8r9

I’ve worked at Comcast for more than 15 years, so I’ve seen the good, the bad, and the ugly. And frankly, the last several years have included a lot of ugly. Executive leadership has made plenty of terrible decisions, and I could probably write a book about them. I’m not defending leadership here.

But the nonstop whining about the RTO mandate is getting exhausting.

Comcast made the policy clear years ago, around 2022 or early 2023: the expectation was to work in the office at least four days a week. This was not hidden in fine print. It was not sprung on anyone overnight. People knew exactly what the policy was.

The real mistake Comcast made was not enforcing it.

People ignored the policy, offices stayed empty, and plenty of employees continued working from home almost full-time. Comcast warned people repeatedly that attendance would eventually be monitored, and still some people apparently decided those warnings did not apply to them.

Then badge scans started getting reviewed, and suddenly everyone was shocked.

Seriously?

If you were coming into the office once or twice a month under a four-day office policy, you were not “following the spirit of the policy.” You were ignoring it and betting that nobody would enforce it.

That is not a policy problem. That is an enforcement problem.

If anything, Comcast waited far too long to address it. Even after enforcement started, it was still incredibly lenient. People coming in two days a week were largely getting away with it. Now the expectation is three days, and somehow this is being treated like some outrageous act of corporate betrayal.

It isn’t.

A company cannot have a workplace policy and then let employees decide whether they personally feel like following it. That is not how employment works. Comcast should have been much clearer and firmer from the beginning: this is the requirement. Follow it, or decide that the job no longer works for you.

You do not have to like the policy. You do not have to agree with it. I personally would rather work from home too. But my personal preference does not magically override the terms of the job I chose to keep.

And this is the part that seems to get lost in all the outrage: nobody is forcing anyone to work for Comcast.

If three days in the office is completely unacceptable to you, then find a remote job. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But acting as though a company enforcing a policy that has existed for years is some shocking injustice is getting old.

At some point, the complaining starts to sound less like a principled objection and more like people being upset that the rules are finally being enforced.

You can dislike the policy. You can criticize it. You can leave because of it.

But pretending you never knew the expectation, or that it somehow should not apply to you because you prefer working from home, is nonsense.

Adults make choices. Accept the terms of the job, push for them to change, or move on.

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Post ID: @eq+1m47fm8r9

Why does Product find out a week before GTO? Me thinks GTO leadership is the last to know most things lately.

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Post ID: @ec+1m47fm8r9

This retroactive effort to punish employees is just a way to get rid of people without having to pay a severance. It is pure greed and shady AF.

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Post ID: @e3+1m47fm8r9

Bizarre decision to make it retroactive, now there is no incentive to try to meet the goal since many of us were told 2 days per week previously and already fail the quota. If they wanted us to work less since we're already on "the bad list" mission accomplished.

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Post ID: @e1+1m47fm8r9

This is like watching the Titanic sink... got my popcorn ready!

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Post ID: @cg+1m47fm8r9

I will come into the office 5 days a week if they ask it. I could not care less.

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Post ID: @cc+1m47fm8r9

@bz yup, I have three interviews lined up already and they're all higher paying than this place.

People who are talented are going to leave. People who have no other options are going to stay. The company will continue it's downward spiral as it loses what little ability it has to deliver

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Post ID: @c4+1m47fm8r9

@bw well said, it is truly delusional for @ah to compare Comcast with Big Tech, the pay is vastly different so one can decide if the trade-offs are worth it (for me personally they are not). Our peers have always been other telcos, against which comparisons should be made (spoiler alert: their employees are upset with their RTO mandates as well).

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Post ID: @c0+1m47fm8r9

@bw when you look at jobs outside of Comcast, you realize just how poorly we are compensated.

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Post ID: @bz+1m47fm8r9

Amazon and Meta pay well. Comcast doesn't.

Even if I don't get laid off I'm leaving, as are most of the talented people I know. That's not how a company gets out of a nose dive in the stock market.

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Post ID: @bw+1m47fm8r9

@ah you get a grip. Nobody's arguing about 4 days in the office. That's not the point and never was. The point is they took a new bar and applied it retroactively. They changed the rules on quarters that are already over and dropped the consequences on employees, including the high performers who actually still care. That's the problem.

And comparing us to Amazon and Meta? Thats delusional. We're not big tech. We're a struggling broadband company that can't even pay like big tech, let alone justify their rules.

Read the post before telling anyone to get a grip.

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Post ID: @bc+1m47fm8r9

Honestly you are all completely delusional. The big tech companies, including Amazon, Meta, etc. have had 5 days in office policies in effect for years now. Our own company has been 4 days per week for those who actually followed policy and weren’t subject to special rules. Just because your leader was turning a blind eye to the company policy does not mean you’re now subject to onerous RTO rules. The rest of us have been coming in the whole time. Get a grip.

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Post ID: @ah+1m47fm8r9

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