For those positions with optum whose jobs are being offshored in ECS, specifically care coordinators in pre and post acute the first round of layoffs may occur on 10/14 with more to follow.
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@16c I saw a job posting for that position the other day
Does anyone know if RN Case Managers in Transplant will be RIF'd?
@t3 Yes, standing meeting cancelled followed by managers sending out notifications stating they'd be on PTO for random days in the near future. ECS. Oh please pick me...
@ym like 2 days
Managers - how soon did you have your RIF training before layoff notices?
@vt what meeting on 10/8?
@t3 Yes, I wonder if 10/8 is the RIF training for managers.
@kc been awhile but I got mine the afternoon/night before for a quick sync early morning. Not sure if it was 15 or 30 minutes but it was over quick.
Figured it was for new assignment since I worked so closely with my skip level mangers boss but when my manager was in there and sat on mute I knew something was up.
Anyone else’s manager have tomorrow/Thursday blocked off and meetings moved (in ECS)?
Any leaks or updates regarding RIF on Preservice/Prior Auth and SICC departments?
This is just the initial wave before red November tsunami.
@kc they will be 15 minute meetings sent right before the time. Usually all done by 12. At least thats how the last 2 RIFs went. With this, it could be a group meeting, but I imagine it'll come the same way.
@js how do they send them out? First thing in the morning or day before? What are the meetings usually labeled as?
@f6 when it happened on my team a few years ago, the people who were laid off were called into one meeting and the remainder into another. We basically were told “your teammates that are currently on the other call are getting the axe.”
Red November is you next big one
@j0 no one knows
For managers that’s on here, what have you heard so far?
For Pre-service and SICC departments:
Are layoffs scheduled on 3rd of October?
How many are planned to be let go?
It sure looks like We brought in a new potential VP from India that is being fast-tracked to learn the business, hire cheap ex-Infosys engineers and cut out the living wage jobs from US workers. I guess what would we expect from a CEO who's previous claim to fame is building up InfoSys with American jobs.
@f6 that is the reality pre-service is going through and has been for quite some time.
@f6 You are never safe. No one will tell you are. Not ever.
@dp they need to get rid of the whole bunch of DCOS
@dr some things I've wanted to ask legacy employees for years... 1. If nh was do great, and such a success, why did they have to be owned by a larger company, and thst company changed several times? 2. Why is it that the facilities used to verbally tell HP case managers constantly thst nh didn't care about the wellbeing of the members? LCD was whatever the predict said. 3: why were new SICCS (several years ago) trained to manage to the predict, not CMS guidelines? 4: why is it thst so many people people in leadership have no background with a HP?
That's just the beginning... but things that make you think Hmmmmm.....
@f6 with the last couple of RIFs, there was a meeting called after it was all done to let the remaining staff know that all the notifications had been madman it was over
So if you AREN’T one of the ones to be laid off, do you have a call to tell you that you’re “safe?” Or do you just hang around while others get cut and just wait until you do or don’t have a last minute meeting on your calendar? I would like to think they’d tell you that you can stop worrying, if you truly don’t have to worry any more (for the time being). I’m on SICC side. I would like to know if I’m surviving the cut (whenever they announce it) and not just wait around not knowing, when they do start relaying information.
@er messed up the date. Easy to do when under duress in the toxic optum environment
Don’t they usually do layoffs on Thursdays? Any managers have any insight into what date for sure and how many in pre-service this first round?
@dp
Remembering the old Navi Preservice and SICC days. Culture was great.
@a4 I am hoping for a nice cut at upper leadership levels in H&C, Directors and above need to go! Out of touch with reality and truly have derailed these teams - the former days of having a cohesive, supportive leader is gone and the environment is just toxic, spiteful and punitive. If we are getting chopped may the axe find them also!
@ak
THIS!!
Anticipate at the minimum 130 PCRs being let go as they recently hired and trained overseas PCRs. I expect > 130 + managers. Current number of overseas PCRs can’t keep with the caseload last week so they might hire more.
Thanks so much for posting this update. I have a hunch it will be in waves with SNF and IRF pre-service. I think SNF will be hit hardest first, IRF a little at first, since they are still in the training/mentoring process for the new hires until early November. Seems like a sh-tshow with them taking over the global cases this week, and they are going to need SOMEONE remaining on staff that knows how to do it all to rescue. It’s the Temu version of preservice reviewers y’all, and I don’t say that sarcastically. I have seen their work and reviews firsthand, providers losing their sh-t on the phones with them because they are not understanding what they are asking. Good Luck, Optum. You’re gonna need it when the lawsuits start rolling in for poor quality reviews!
@a2 management has been awful through all of this. Little robots. They are in danger too
@a1 no specific numbers, may 20-30% first round and heavier at the end of the month
@OP
Don’t you hate management for sugar coating things?
How many are they letting go?
Thank you for the update!
Do you know how many they are laying off on this first round?