Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Asking agency to be in office

Are agency workers needed to be in office? Not sure why managers keep mentioning about coming to office whereas contract mentions remote


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Post ID: @OP+1m3mde120

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Hire agency employees and layoff the Ford employees. Done.

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Post ID: @14c+1m3mde120

they have to be careful with this. if they start treating agency/contractors with employee rules, they might have a lawsuit saying that they are owed all the benefits of being an employee. not sure why the contractors don't know this.

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Post ID: @xp+1m3mde120

@b8+1m3mde120 - I was an agency employee. In both Canada and America and let me tell you I did more positive things for FMC than any FTE. The FTE's came in around 8am, had their coffee in the cafe until 9am. Left for lunch at 11am and returned at 1pm. Out the door at 3pm. In between they did a lot of talking on the phone and with each other. Don't paint all agency with the same brush.

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Post ID: @x9+1m3mde120

@b8+1m3mde120 Ford hires Agency because of bad managers, that got rid of the good employees, kept the bad ones, and now they need someone to actually do the work...

Regarding your assessment of Agency people, let me tell you there are good and bad contractors, as there are good and bad employees. With the caveat that most contractors are cheaper than the employees.

Even at $100 per hour, a contractor is cheaper than an employee. Ford is paying $200K annually to the Agency for a top engineer. How much an equivalent GSR8 makes at Ford? Salary, plus bonus, plus vacations, holidays, 401K match, health care coverage... way over $200K a year.... or if you want to include pension, it is even more expensive for the company.

So that's your answer. Ford hires Agency because it is cheaper. Now management realized there are even cheaper alternatives (LCCs) and our jobs are going to Brazil, Mexico, India, Philippines, you name it... I just hope that one day the CEO job also gets outsourced...

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Post ID: @eq+1m3mde120

Why in he-l does Ford need to hire agency employees. They don't do much and they charge the company a minimum of $100 per hour. If you hire an agency employee, then get rid of one Ford employee.

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