Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Latest form 5500

Greetings. The latest 2025 5500 form has just come out. This tells you in general where IBM is headed
So 2025 medical participants for full time and part time workers for the USA = 46,188
The 2024 number = 50,667. So down 4,479 in one year

This equates to 2025 short term disability = 45,240
The 2024 short term disability = 49,586. So again down 4,346 year over year

The net of this is even with IBM buying USA SW companies they are still dropping 4,500 employees per year
REMEMBER this is a one year look back, so 2026 numbers are closing in on 40k USA employees


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Post ID: @OP+1m3a9s7rs

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@em sadly this isn’t your granddads ibm anymore.

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Post ID: @fj+1m3a9s7rs

@Dr. I think you point out an interesting fact concerning the medical retirement bridge for folks impacted in 2025. Add to that yet another 4500 folks from 2026 RA/PIP actions and that puts IBM USA at close to 35k total including the plants and research. If the plants/research employee population = 10k (research = 1.5, Austin = 4.5, RST = 2, POK = 2.5) then that says IBM USA on shore population is close to 8% of the worldwide IBM population. Remember Kyndryl let the 8% onshore fact out of the bag when they got spunoff. I believe that’s where managements target was set to all along when they began this offshore/make IBM younger experiment. Now that IBM has the employee numbers set to where they want them, it’s fish or cut bait to see if their go to market strategy works as the legacy employee savings have been rung out of NA and Northern EUrope

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Post ID: @em+1m3a9s7rs

@OP keep in mind that the true numbers are still yet lower. That's because people like me who were "retired" last December have a years worth of cobra and therefore IBM medical and dental. That means that all of us who were forcibly retired, would be shown as active in this model. That makes some of these numbers an additional year out of date.

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Post ID: @dr+1m3a9s7rs

Very interesting, thanks for providing that info @OP.

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Post ID: @b9+1m3a9s7rs

@a7 that’s 52% in India. If you factor visa holders etc in the USA the number will jump up even more.

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Post ID: @ak+1m3a9s7rs

@OP THANK YOU!!!

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Post ID: @ac+1m3a9s7rs

This country is trying to build a wall to keep the wrong country out.

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Post ID: @ab+1m3a9s7rs

@a2 ibm is 52% Indian employees

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Post ID: @a7+1m3a9s7rs

Would be interesting to know how many of the 45k are Red Hat and subsequent acquisitions vs legacy IBMers.

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Post ID: @a3+1m3a9s7rs

IBM is an Indian company. Few US based engineers work for the Indian company.

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Post ID: @a2+1m3a9s7rs

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