India memebers have literally spoiled the work culture. Some managers are so rude.
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And some are fake, liars, and definitely back stabbers
which team - are u referring to testing org?
When one says the Indians or the Americans, it is not about nationality. It is about the working culture in those geographic regions. In general terms, there are fundamental observations in how the offices in India and US operate.
Indian labor is cheaper. US cost of living is high and varies greatly by area. But home base for Teradata is San Diego - at least it USED to be.
Observations have shown those from India office collaborate within their local group but do NOT freely communciate and share with US team counterparts, driving cracks in team dynamics. This is likely a management issue to safeguard their own position. The more employees an India manager can have in India, the more power and control they acquire.
Indian culture will not admit failures or weakness. Rather than admit not knowing or undertsanding and asking for help, it's hidden as if that is a personal failure. Everything asked to them is a YES, "researching" it, should be ready tomorrow (repeated to buy time), etc. Why? Because either they clearly don't understand or they devote a percentage of time to product work and a significant percentage of time to their own professional learning...on company time.
In the US, we work 14 hour days on the product. If we want to go build an AI agent or learn a new programming skill, we have to do that on our own time - AFTER we dedicate our days to advancing TD. It is the "TD First" versus "ME First" battle.
Guess I can say the Indian office is brilliant there....work at this company for a salary....spend half your time doing a little work as prescribed exactly to you then spend the other half of your time growing your skills to get out of here and find a better job. Pure stepping stone rather than a commitment.
Have witnessed first hand Indian managers who hide information from their managers/directors, who falsely report metrics to hide quality issues, who skew data to take the heat off their team while hoping they can fix it before leadership finds out.
Vast difference culturally in how to feel valued as an employee. US mentally is often about intrinsic rewards - praise, bonus, small compensation award, verbal recognition, expressing thanks and gratitude. Indian culture seems to want hierarchical advancements, needing titles of leads, managers, directors. The focus feels very apparent that everything, literally everything, is about resume building and career advancement. Rarely is it about doing the best thing for the team, the product, or the company
Business focus versus Personal focus (self).
- US ways of working is to foster creative solutioning to business problems, execute through team collabration, to have PM tightly coupled within the development process - in the meetings, prioritizing, pairing with engineering.
Indian management has shifted from being Team focused to being a dictatorship, extremely prescriptive. Parent-child style. I am in charge. You do what I tell you.
Shifted from a "figure it out and find solutions as a team" to a very prescriptive do the minimal to squeeze by. What is delivered is limited. Dates aren't hit. Quality and performance aren't meeting high standards, yet somehow that Indian management layer is able to make their team appear like superstars.
- The real experience is that there is usually a US employee doing the difficult grunt work behind the curtains to hand hold the Indian team, to give them step by step instructions.And take a guess what happens? That Indian manager takes ALL the recognition.
So what are they teaching at Indian universities? How to do just enough work to get by while simultaneously building your skills portfolio on the side? How to report to management in a way that bluffs through the actual state of affairs? How to sabotage your team members thus elevating your own placement on the team?
@jt Maybe there should be aTDC India blog. This conversation is has nothing to do with the overall company. Cheers!
@j3 many examples of doing nothing and creating mess are many people. Once top guy would be HR who made this culture he-l in India.
He just passes the information to verify few people.
@hy @hy we do far better job then you. We know what to do, better you do your job in better way and don't create any message.
Yes, if people like you are there in teradata we will need one pysctratist.
We are here to raise concerns so that we can show to US leaders that who are creating whole mess in India
@OP you all need to go see a Psychiatrist. It is in your head. Calm down and focus on your assignments. If you don’t like the environment, change employers. You guys are wound far too tight. Get over it. Good luck.
Culture su-ks at Teradata anywhere you go. Then there are pockets where the culture is obnoxious for outsiders, but okay for locals. But no reason to suffer. If you are local, go get another job. Out of your natural habitat with work permit? Integrate. Whatever you do, no reason to cling on to this cold disgusting mess.
Regardless of nationality, we now have a lot of people who have been promoted to roles way beyond their own capabilities. I can think of at least 3 here in APAC
Let's focus on the behavior, not the nationality. If certain managers are being rude or creating a difficult work environment, that's the issue that should be addressed
The truth is, management doesn't care because they're surrounded by a bunch of yes-nodding gangsters. These middle managers have zero technical skills and won't relinquish an ounce of control over their teams, but they eagerly nod 'yes' to everything executive leadership asks just to increase their own foothold and protect their turf.
There are plenty of good, polite, effective Indian workers.
Teradata doesnt hire them, they just hire "cheap".
I find it fascinating that Teradata employees continue to think management cares about them. How naive.
there's are issues in all companies but these issues at TD are self spawned. Zero employee motivation and hire only top notch colleges. How will we be happy with basic facilites. There were data collected on improvement but no action has been taken.
Managers don't come, no technical discussion what will I do from office when my manager is zero technical and not coming to office.
This is not new, this is there from couple of years and we have no platform to complaint. We need a major change for HR and other leaders. We have to suffer untill we are here.