in R this week. Tell mgmt how much you hate Viya. Meetup workshops for directors and VPs on how to write vague linkedin posts about wanting a new challenge. Everyone else can attend a session about applying for unemployment during the holidays.
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@179 “Biggest personality wins!”
More irony coming from someone who just took the time to write an album list of fake song titles including “Biggest personality wins!” and “Trite dismissive-isms”….
@11r
My favorite band is the house band. They’re releasing a new Greatest Hits album with classics like:
- Failin’ upwards (again)
- Whisper the secret numbers
- It’s always $3B and sunny
- Daddy give me a department (I’ve earned it)
- Never gonna concede your point
- Balad of the Secret Love Child(ren)
- You’ll never know (What’s really goin on)
- The IPO shuffle
Bonus tracks include:
- Trite dismissive-isms
- Don’t ki-l my Mojo
- The customer is here for ME!
- Biggest personality wins!
- Koolaid by the gallon
- All-night Hackathon
- Art Department safe space
And finally:
- Smells like TeVe spirit
@160 When can we expect these layoffs?
Lots of growth companies doing layoffs as well. So apparently by simplistic measures growth means layoffs.
Beijing, which wasn’t because of financial reasons, probably takes some of that pressure off. But I keep hearing about how no growth means layoffs. And yet the bulk of our headcount drop has been voluntary.
Burgundy leather armchairs. A roaring fire. Pictures of JHG on the wall, and a selection of fine cigars and aged brandies to help us determine the future of SAS. I wish you could see it. But, you know, it’s an exclusive club. We can’t let just anybody in.
Typical one-percenter behavior. Couple that with, "only I can solve this problem" and willfully ignoring feedback from the lower echelon and you've got a recipe for success!
Quibble all you want about whether Viya revenue is offsetting SAS9 flight. Revenue is revenue and no growth means layoffs.
No one wants to talk about customer churn. That in itself is telling.
@11r You should see our room!
Burgundy leather armchairs. A roaring fire. Pictures of JHG on the wall, and a selection of fine cigars and aged brandies to help us determine the future of SAS.
I wish you could see it. But, you know, it’s an exclusive club. We can’t let just anybody in.
Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnn….
I’m glad you guys found a room. Also you’re both wrong and you favorite band s-cks.
@109 Show me where I said Viya is generating large revenues. Never did.
I don’t know for sure other than one internal reference which suggests it is larger than all the Viya=insignifant revenue chatter on here.
My point is that the folks here don’t know either way.
But I think your assessment is fair given no other information.
My take would be that the migration to Viya rate is ramping up significantly which is replacing existing SAS 9 money but resulting in a $ wash.
But frankly if that is the case it’s a win.
@c1 If you believe that Viya is generating large revenues, you must also believe that SAS9 has had an equivalent decline. The increase and the decline must balance, because total revenues have been flat at $3B for a long time.
Sure, this is possible. But what are the odds of both revenue streams generating such large changes?
And what are the odds of such large changes being equivalent and opposite? Two large numbers just happening to balance would be quite a coincidence!
The probability is that changes in Viya and SAS9 revenues are small; and they don’t have to balance, if they’re both within a rounding error of $3B.
@r0
This negativity is killin’ my mojo, man!
Let’s kick back, have a growler of micro brews, and have a jammin’ hack-a-thon!
@ag “ I'll take reality over hopes and prayers any day, my friend.”
Then why choose living in such a gloomy reality versus going somewhere bright and cheery??
Serious question. Go elsewhere and life will be amazing. Mostly for us because expenses will go down and will have less dead weight.
@qv haha nice deflection from people who are convinced they are on sinking ship..
In any case you have no idea what I actually th8nk because I don’t really share it here. I just know that you are projecting what you want me to think to make your deflection more convincing…
Courage of convictions…
At least the people who "post nonstop doom and gloom" aren't delusional. They probably don't believe the "XX years of continuous growth" narrative, or that SAS has never had layoffs (or want to quibble over the size of the layoffs that SAS has had), or that "IPO ready" takes three five years. And they can probably read between the lines of the company's "annual report" and marketing to understand what's really going on at SAS. I'll take reality over hopes and prayers any day, my friend.
"SAS has completely bet the future on the Viya platform".
If true, that is zero growth news. Potential buyers will have interest ONLY in milking the declining SAS9 revenue stream.
Correct if this is wrong
Fake news.
Correct if this is wrong, but:
- Hasn’t Viya basically become a branding term representing modern ‘SAS’?
- Hasn’t all development moved to the Viya architecture/platform
- Except for critical security fixes, haven’t SAS9 development tracks been closed?
- Aren’t SAS9 customers being strongly persuaded/forced to move forward/convert to Viya—even to the point of being denied renewal SETINIT packages for SAS9?
Seems like the company SAS has completely bet the future on the Viya platform and is putting nearly all resources and effort to this end.
@kn Why do you and others that think like you still work at SAS? I’m sure some small percentage of you that post nonstop doom and gloom on here have left. What about the rest of you?
You like riding the “sinking ship”? Or just not good enough to go elsewhere? Or too lazy?
If the first option then you aren’t bright.
If the middle option then you aren’t bright.
If the last option then you are part of the problem.
Have the courage of your convictions…. Or don’t.
@m1 ironic that he was clearly thinking about you when he replied or that it implies he actually “thinks” at all?
@kb once again the irony of your response is epic.
"Who are you trying to fool? Us, “future investors”, or yourself?"
He is only fooling himself. Just like the Big German was fooling himself when the BG walked out of customer meetings because the BG did not like hearing the customer input.
Maybe he is the BG!!!??? LOL
@jp Yes, “private company” is the description of a legal entity. It’s also a condescending way to avoid acknowledging someone’s point.
Who are you trying to fool? Us, “future investors”, or yourself?
- I'm* the guy always yapping about Dunning-Kruger at SAS (or at least one of them). This is a complete list of my posts in this thread:
It sounds like you can't stop thinking about what I say though. Weird. I don't think about you at all.
@ey Actually “private company” is a descriptive phrase used to indicate the ownership status of a corporate entity.
With certain statuses come regulatory transparency requirements and with others come no obligations to anyone other than the tax man.
But sure I suppose gaslighting delusional environment is a reasonable description(?). You be you.
@eq “ So yes, we do know”
No doubt you also happen to be one of the folks yapping about dunning-Kruger.
Irony.
During 2025, has Viya caused more jobs lost than gained? Not much traffic on Indeed regarding Viya jobs.
“Private company” is a great gaslight covering phrase for a delusional environment.
“you don’t know any of that”
Flat revenues can be explained in one of two ways:
1) V9 revenues are precipitously dropping, while Viya enjoys explosive growth.
2) V9 and Viya revenues are both approximately flat.
The first explanation requires two unlikely events; the second, two likely events.
So yes, we do know.
@ag you don’t know any of that any more than I know the opposite.
You do understand what a private company is right?
How about Databricks next gen rollout to replace legacy components. They don’t buzz about their financial success versus the legacy. In fact they don’t do segment reporting at all. Because they don’t have to.
You guys are getting closer and closer to coherent thoughts. Keep going and you will get there.
@a9 A presentation on Viya revenue will be quicker than a New York minute!
For those who want to argue that point, consider this: if Viya revenue was meaningful, SAS would be constantly buzzing about it. Instead, Viya revenue mediocrity is shield via silence.
I’ll attend as long as it includes a presentation on Viya revenue.