Thread regarding Ford layoffs

I guess other people want all the gizmos.

I just look at them as more stuff to break.

I just want a simple set of wheels to get me from point A to Point B with heat in the winter and air conditioning in the summer. I don’t need to pay for all the gizmos.

@g4 you made good points about why EVs don't make sense I'm America. But you didn't acknowledge the real problem that American vehicles have inferior technology. They don't integrate with out phones and are mostly outside of our digital lives. That is why we will fail to compete. Think of 25 years ago, when most of us used America Online. AOL didn't fail because they didn't send out enough CDs, they failed because they didn't adapt to competitor technology. Our ICEVs are the AOL CDs of today.

@a2 China doesn’t have much low sulphur gas so emissions systems with catalysts like catalytic converters and lean NOX traps can’t be used. As a result ICE vehicles in China’s dense, populous cities create unbearable pollution. Petroleum is also a huge import for China, so substituting domestic coal for imported oil is a priority to improve the balance of trade. Electric cars powered by coal power plants outside the cities is a good solution for China, but not for the US where all gasoline is low sulphur, cities sprawl, population is smaller, distance between cities is greater and there is much less stop and go traffic

@d3 Accurate attribution is rarely valued at Ford. One person does something extraordinary, management hands the attaboys out to who ever is convenient. It’s demoralizing, but the biggest problem is the business doesn’t know how to get things done.

There is no chinese in high level hiring. Why?

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How do you not understand that this will sc--w us every...single...time? Intellectual property will vacate faster than you large pizza in moms basement. Talent is local in this country, we just refuse to pay for it. Its self defeating incompetence at the higher levels. Take a lesson from anywhere? Chinese companies have directives. They simply do the work. Government subsidies blah, blah. You do what management says, or you get fired. Management plans dont work? Management GETS FIRED. We dont fire the responsible management here, it just doesnt happen. The same people are allowed to make the same mistakes again. Only things that change is who takes the blame.

@b2 Nice try. But you will always have Sh** managers and executives at the top, China or not!

In times like these, it's important to stay nimble through process leadership.

H-1Bs are hiring useless H-1Bs

We should be hiring more engineers from Chinese automakers if they are actually good but here we are hiring useless h1bs and silicon valley flunkies.

@OP "Wait, why don’t Ford cars have that"? Because this is the United States of America where personal privacy and many other freedoms are not monitored because that would be not only an infringement on but also a violation of a US Citizen's constitutional rights. Count me out and KEEP IT THAT WAY!

lol you don’t need google or apple for that technology. Farley is clueless. Tesla will have all of that in the coming years and ford will still be trying to figure out how to make simple API calls.

Does China have cheap (in their economy) gasoline? The figures I have seen is that gasoline is about 8 times the price it is in the U.S. when the median income is factored in.

That’s why EVs make sense in China.