What gives so these tttards decide to get rid of some deg techs that were already a skeleton crew but didn't touch or say anything about air pressure b-ms!!
I swear you can set your watch to the times these A$$ clowns will be at a certain CO staring at a dryer and which co they will be because of what the specials will be at the closest restaurants to that co!
The more copper construction rips out we no longer need to be watching dryers!
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“ The AP facilities need to be maintained due to the priority circuits that run through them”.
Honest question, no idea of the engineering of these AP cables but did any of these government circuits not run through the aerial cables that are being replaced with fiber? If so how were they handled? We have large underground cables that are basically empty. How much longer will they maintain them for the few government circuits that might be running through them?“
The circuits for the government will remain in place until the government no longer forces local telcos to provide & maintain the circuits.
I always turn the pressure off when I go into a C.O. and turn them back on as I leave.
LUV it when it rains.
And when I'm walking - and - see a cylinder near the sidewalk - OFF it goes.
“ The AP facilities need to be maintained due to the priority circuits that run through them”.
Honest question, no idea of the engineering of these AP cables but did any of these government circuits not run through the aerial cables that are being replaced with fiber? If so how were they handled? We have large underground cables that are basically empty. How much longer will they maintain them for the few government circuits that might be running through them?
I asked Gemini about using the excess light to keep the tubes dry. It can, but you have to use the full spectrum of light to do it. It said all colors of the rainbow, basically, including brown and black. This will save us so much compared to using air!
The AP facilities need to be maintained due to the priority circuits that run through them. FAA, 911, Govt agencies, military, medical, schools, etc. The govt. wants it to remain as a backup, the company will now have a case to make for more govt money to maintain this expensive network. Most public and business circuits have been or are in the process of being moved to the fiber network.
My question would be is where is the point that it no longer makes sense to have these smaller groups to maintain that work. At one time AP, DEG, etc had their own dispatch system, centers, staff/procedures. If that is still the case what is the breaking point and how will it be addressed as those groups change. We tend to look at possible savings from a person/vehicle perspective. Wonder how much the cost of air bottles has gone down company wide with this fiber push as an example.
"Everything I read about the copper network makes it sound really expensive to maintain. I see why it's being replaced. I actually had an idea for using radio waves in a hollow tube to cover long distances. I think it would need these air pressure dryers too."
Where do we find people like this? Reinvent the wave guide so it can be used inappropriately. Magnificent. Is that you Jeremy?
"Can they use the excess light from the fiber optic cables to keep the tubes dry?"
Is this a joke or are there really people working at this company who know this little about how fiber optics works?? Please tell me it is a lame attempt at comedy.
Can they use the excess light from the fiber optic cables to keep the tubes dry?
Has the process to decommission these cables been changed. Found out, in another life, there wasn’t a standardized way to notify AP of those changes. As such you had dead cables generating alarms for dispatch. Seen a lot of those old aerial cables removed due to fiber replacement. Have seen posts about alarm suppression. Perhaps in today’s world this is being done without having to contact the AP group.
Air pressure techs are more skilled then digital techs. Gpon rangers.
Tell me you enjoy saying manhole without telling me.
Everything I read about the copper network makes it sound really expensive to maintain. I see why it's being replaced. I actually had an idea for using radio waves in a hollow tube to cover long distances. I think it would need these air pressure dryers too.
Older copper cable sheaths are pressurized with air in order to keep any water/liquid out. “Air pressure” refers to the techs that maintain the pressurized system which includes dryers to remove moisture out of the air. Within the cables the copper conductor is insulated with paper thus, the need to keep any moisture out or it causes resistive faults, ie shorts, grounds, etc. between them. Most of the pressurized cables these days are in manhole runs, it used to be everywhere including aerial but the company has been replacing/abandoning/removing them for decades. Some of these cables have been in use since the early 1900’s. There is an ongoing copper cable reclamation project to remove many of the old cables.
The newer copper cables don’t require pressurized air because the copper conductors are insulated with a type of plastic and buried cable is encapsulated with a gel like substance called “jelly” to further mitigate moisture from penetrating it. Fiber overlay is rapidly replacing any copper cables but it will more than likely take more than a decade to totally transform. The goal is by end of 2029 but that is very aspirational. The government and other emergency agencies want to continue to use the copper network as a backup because of security issues so we will see who wins out in totally removing the old network. IP networks can be hacked from anywhere in the world, local older tech not so much
What the he-l is air pressure??