Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

The new norm

It’s truly amazing how ExxonMobil has degraded over the last 5 or so years. The company has transformed from a talent rich organisation to a shell. The new norm is outsource, move to low cost centres and cut. It looks great on metrics but in reality, it is going to explode. We have engineers from the tech centres who have no real experience or mentoring but making significant recommendations which will not be caught by the local affiliate, we have MSP who just want to raise tickets after tickets so they get paid without doing the work, we are not paying our contractors on time due to poor msp quality and we are demotivating the talent that’s left to leave. This is not compete to win.

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Will VP positions like engineering and projects soon be based in India and localized?

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Post ID: @15f+1jvfxefcm

@153+1jvfxefcm The Gong Show is too good for new ExxonMobil, it can't even get close to that level of amateurism.

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Post ID: @15d+1jvfxefcm

Complete gong show

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Post ID: @153+1jvfxefcm

DW (or really any of the exec clown car crowd) could write a book called: "Winning: How We Turned EM Into An Outsourced Engineering Call Center And Filled Our Pockets"

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@p7+1jvfxefcm

Might the issue be with how we implement our model? How many of those 3,000 engineers and SMEs are actually competent in their roles? We’ve all seen those with a career path similar to: started in Safety, moved to an engineering role for 3 years, and then became SME for process because they worked around it for 3 years and took a course. If we actually developed SMEs (versus PIPing them and sending them to work for 3rd parties, our ROI should not only match…it should be better. Third parties will never take care of things as well as employees. Nothing sinister. Their incentives are just different.

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Post ID: @r3+1jvfxefcm

@pq+1jvfxefcm

In EMTEC (formerly EMRE), there was always one experimentalist and ten managers reviewing the one data point that the experimentalist generated in a 24-hour period.

We are still top heavy on research and engineering managers.

As one project executive told EMTEC management, who are all these employees billing my project and what did they contribute that month to the project because I do not recognize fifty percent of the employees on the monthly billing reports.

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Post ID: @pr+1jvfxefcm

@p7+1jvfxefcm... And it still won't work, because Exxon will have 200 supervisors and advisors above those 50 principles, and 100 other supervisors in BTC for the 500 engineers in India...

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Post ID: @pq+1jvfxefcm

@je+1jvfxefcm

Valero, the largest refiner in North America, has an engineering model where fifty subject matter experts in San Antonio, Texas work with all third-party technology, service providers and EPC contractors to provide engineering support to Valero's refineries.

Valero's Return on Investment over a decade is equivalent to EMRE/EMTEC's model where three thousand engineers provide in-house expertise to ExxonMobil Refineries and Petrochemical Plants. Presidents and Vice-Presidents within ExxonMobil know this through industry benchmarking studies.

Bottom line, we are moving toward a hybrid model where fifty subject matter experts reside in HC10 countries who will work with engineering service providers in India and other lower cost countries to provide refinery and petrochemical support to ExxonMobil.

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Post ID: @p7+1jvfxefcm

Folks, while you are so focused on BTC, let us not forget about highly incompetent Indians in Houston/Spring workforce. Watch out for these sl--eballs in EMTE and LCS. Worst among worst.

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Post ID: @mk+1jvfxefcm

Agreed. Expertise is gone. We are at the mercy of 3rd-party “experts” that tell us we need this and that, and we no longer have the knowledge to understand it much less challenge it. We hide behind the idea that the supposed expert 3rd-party advised us and they must know best so just do it. Managers and program leads get to check the box that an expert recommended so no internal person can be held accountable if things goes bad.

And the supposed savings on internal labor costs? Fictional. The costs are simply moved to a different invoice (with 3rd-party markups included) and accounting bucket. Sadly, we are too ignorant to even recognize how inflated those invoices are compared to the general market. We are being fleeced left and right.

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Post ID: @je+1jvfxefcm

All whilst a several hundred greedy executive pieces of itsh jostle at the trough to stuff their own accounts with tens of millions of dollars. So much winning!

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Post ID: @hb+1jvfxefcm

Those Indians you speak of are no different than any of us - trying to make their families proud, raise children and have a life they’re willing to work hard for. So sad to see so much misplaced anger when in reality any of us working for a mega major are at the bottom of the sociopolitical totem pole. Sad.

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Post ID: @fm+1jvfxefcm

Chevron is in the same boat. Our leaders think that the talentless Indians will solve our problems. It's laughable and the Indian work centers will be the first to be replaced by next gen AI.

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Post ID: @f3+1jvfxefcm

@ds+1jvfxefcm It's right, but I have no idea HOW EM is under staffed, seeing as no projects are going forward as the presented cases upon which they're proposed are consistently unjustified.

EM business planning is a creativity void.

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Post ID: @ee+1jvfxefcm

@ds+1jvfxefcm This is unfortunately the truth, made worse also by incompetent Indian contractors in many cases, especially as EM is engaging them earlier and earlier to perpetuate the outsourcing.

It is very uninspired.

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Post ID: @dx+1jvfxefcm

We’re understaffed already which is contributing to work load. Now we have to redo everything the Indians did and having early morning and late night calls with them. It’s miserable

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Post ID: @ds+1jvfxefcm

Why doesn’t India have famines anymore? The USA used to send free food to India during famines. Up to 20% of our crop for some crops. Then the USA developed the famine resistant strains of food, financed the dams, negotiated the treaties that made the dams possible so that India could feed itself. You are welcome.

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Post ID: @b5+1jvfxefcm

Those who can in India consume just as much. It isn’t virtue if you have no choice.

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Post ID: @b4+1jvfxefcm

Low quality work is not sustainable

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Post ID: @b2+1jvfxefcm

go to sleep, India is the future of the corporate world. Your consumption levels and greed are not sustainable.

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