Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

The real result of hiring contractors and reducing full time employees

Replacing employees with contractors always backfires. Anyone in a leadership role who deals with contractors knows this. There’s corruption at every turn, but if my intuitions about our current leadership are correct, they invite this type of corruption that bleeds share holders and employees dry.

Corporations seeking to cut costs often choose to replace full-time employees with contractors. On paper, this approach appears efficient—contractors don’t require benefits, long-term commitments, or as much overhead. However, in practice, this strategy frequently backfires, particularly due to two major issues: corruption between contractors and the managers who hire them, and the constant negotiation of extra services that inflates long-term costs.

First, using contractors introduces a layer of separation and reduced oversight, which creates fertile ground for corruption. When hiring managers or department heads have the power to select and approve contractor agreements, there’s often room for backdoor deals—kickbacks, favoritism, or mutual gain arrangements. Unlike full-time employees, contractors are not bound by the same HR oversight or company loyalty, making these unethical relationships harder to detect and control. Over time, this can lead to inflated invoices, poor work quality being overlooked, or contractors being repeatedly rehired despite underperformance, all due to personal gain rather than company interest.

Second, contractor arrangements often involve a rigid scope of work, meaning any tasks outside the original agreement require renegotiation. These “extra services” quickly become a profit engine for contractors, who can exploit gaps or ambiguities in contracts to charge premium rates. What starts as a cost-saving measure often turns into a recurring expense cycle, with managers locked into re-negotiations just to maintain basic operations. In contrast, full-time employees typically have broader responsibilities and flexibility, allowing companies to pivot and adapt without constant financial renegotiation.

In short, while replacing employees with contractors may appear financially attractive in the short term, the long-term effects often lead to loss of control, inflated costs, and vulnerabilities to internal corruption. Companies that value stability, accountability, and trust are better served by investing in dedicated full-time talent rather than outsourcing core functions.

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Look at what’s going on at Cricket where the CIO is taking bribes to push contracts to certain companies. I’m sure this is going on throughout T.

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Post ID: @ye+1js9jb3pb

Contractors are getting cut too. We’ve had many let go

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Post ID: @q3+1js9jb3pb

“Use of the long dash is a pure ChatGPT/AI tell. 99.999% of humans do not know how to produce one on a western keyboard. This is a ChatGPT spam post.”

What’s your point? How is it relevant who or what wrote it. If charge wrote it, great, it adds validity to it, you dummy.

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On paper, this approach appears efficient—contractors don’t require benefits

Use of the long dash is a pure ChatGPT/AI tell. 99.999% of humans do not know how to produce one on a western keyboard. This is a ChatGPT spam post.

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Post ID: @k6+1js9jb3pb

"“Contractors don’t care about work quality or brand integrity!”
Read these boards. This is also true of many employees."

Thank you John Stankey.

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Post ID: @fj+1js9jb3pb

Duh. Thanks for stating the obvious captain!

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Post ID: @f5+1js9jb3pb

“Contractors don’t care about work quality or brand integrity!”
Read these boards. This is also true of many employees.

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Post ID: @dc+1js9jb3pb

Contractors don’t care about work quality or brand integrity! I was double booked for an after hours test and turn up. Thirty minutes after the scheduled technician onsite time, a contracted vendor showed up, we were double booked by accident. I asked why he was here at the customer prem and he explained. I told him to leave because he smelled of alcohol like he was drinking at a bar for hours. I couldn’t believe he actually showed up in that condition, but that’s what contractors do, that who they are. They just don’t care!

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Post ID: @d0+1js9jb3pb

I would jump at the opportunity to be a contractor. None of them have to deal with the RTO call center garbage.

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Post ID: @cr+1js9jb3pb

This leadership is full of looser, they don’t know how to run a business. They failed to provide very basic seating capacity and expect people come to office. Employees are not happy, how customers will be happy.

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Post ID: @cq+1js9jb3pb

Contractors will make AT&T great again.

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Post ID: @cj+1js9jb3pb

The C-Suite and BOD, has opted to operate the T corporation currently as 40% badged employees and 60% contractors.

Let T sink like the Titanic!

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Post ID: @c6+1js9jb3pb

Quit your bellyaching.

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Post ID: @bm+1js9jb3pb

We as a company should hire contractors. No worries at n benefits and less for HR to deal with. Not sure why we have any field techs that work for the company. With technology as it is, we can automate most of the repairs. Aren’t we doing that anyway giving the techs step by step instructions. Does ATT even require a high school diploma for a field tech?

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Post ID: @bg+1js9jb3pb

Bravisimo!

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Post ID: @be+1js9jb3pb

"The most articulate..." - reads like chatGPT

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Post ID: @b8+1js9jb3pb

Contractors get to work from home, so… how’s that for the collaboration myth.

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Post ID: @b4+1js9jb3pb

"“We were not like this before Jan 2024." ”This isn’t true. The extent of abuse by many employees just wasn’t quantified or fully known at that time."

The ability to quantify abuse was available previously by measuring activity on individuals computer, whether in the office or on VPN. The CEO back then was trying to grow revenue.
The current CEO (Stankey) does not know how to grow revenue. Every leadership position he has been in resulted in ki-ling revenue streams through poor business decisions (Warner Bros), or cutting expenses. He only knows how to manage one side of the margin equation -- expenses. Of course, that side of the equation is easy and anyone who has taken 1st year business classes can figure it out.
Stankey is just trying to make the environment/culture so miserable that he can get employees to leave without severance. The current attitude of the employees is a result of the culture Stankey has intentionally created. Prior to covid we were a hybrid company and all the employees around me were working around 50 hours a week. When covid hit that number jumped to around 60 for me because I started work earlier in the morning (no commute) and worked a little later in the evening (until the kids got home), around 60 hours a week. And I NEVER used all my vacation, sick time, or caregiver days. However, I have cut my hours back to 40 a week, and I will use every dam paid day-off the company offers. If they want to sever my employment, so be it. But don't think for a second this is driven by employee activity . . . this is all Stankey and this is how he has always led his organizations.

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Post ID: @b3+1js9jb3pb

“We were not like this before Jan 2024.”

This isn’t true. The extent of abuse by many employees just wasn’t quantified or fully known at that time. When multiple employees on these boards show you who they are, believe them the first time.

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Post ID: @ay+1js9jb3pb

This isn’t true at all according to the majority of posts on this board.
“8 and skate”
“It can wait”

We were not like this before Jan 2024.

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Post ID: @ax+1js9jb3pb

“In contrast, full-time employees typically have broader responsibilities and flexibility.”
Coffee Badging
Mouse Jiggling
Fake sick days
Constant whining about RTO
Blaming T for all of life's problems, yet you will never resign

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Post ID: @aw+1js9jb3pb

Ticket 2 Ride fits this model perfectly. The program is known by name at the highest level and still fails to produce results for business stakeholders commensurate with its bloated budget.

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Post ID: @ar+1js9jb3pb

“In contrast, full-time employees typically have broader responsibilities and flexibility.”

This isn’t true at all according to the majority of posts on this board.
“8 and skate”
“It can wait”

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Post ID: @aq+1js9jb3pb

The most articulate, factual, and descriptive account of the true, ugly side of fake corporate America, and the sl--e that fills the cogs of the wheel. See reality for what it really is.

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Post ID: @ap+1js9jb3pb

We need tariffs on all outsourced jobs. $400,000/year minimum.

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Post ID: @an+1js9jb3pb

Don’t care. When can we WFH?

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