Thread regarding Nike Inc. layoffs

More than half the ETWs I know come in earlier and leave later and are paid half as much as their FTE peers. What are you talking about, OP?

STFU and be glad you kept your job. Honestly, half the people I know who were laid off got HS on reviews and are still looking.

The ones I know who landed roles have all taken a paycut.

Be grateful and empathetic. Maybe you’re. It being recognized because your efforts are in the wrong place or people avoid you due to your low EQ.

Are you fu--ing serious? Tell me you’ve never been an etw without telling me, your entitlement reeks and it’s not cute.

DO YOU REALIZE that ETWs get paid hourly, often at a rate of 3/4 to 1/2 the salary of the people they cover for AND don’t get benefits (healthcare, 401K, bonus, PTO, etc). Let alone the panic of not knowing if your contract can be cancelled any moment (with no severance or cobra as Nike gives FTEs) or not be renewed/extended.

If you’re so jealous I suggest you quit and come back as an ETW. Then you can clock out at your 40 hours. Let us know how it works out for you.

@OP, you're clueless. JS just fired all the ETWs in CPI. Tell them it's better now.

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While at Nike it seems like the biggest thing in the world, no one I've worked for since then ever asked me if I was a "black badge". You are definitely being used and getting out will do wonders for your sanity and confidence.

As an FTE of 2.5 years, with no real sign of getting a black badge, I can't say I agree. The FTE's in my department are treated far better, tho we aren't abused or anything. It's not terrible but it's also not great. Our team is always being told how great we are and how much value we bring, but bring up a black badge and it's "someday", "hopefully when budgets align", etc etc. At this point I don't even care, but then they try to motivate us with the carrot dangled on a stick. I'm grateful for the paycheck but that's all it is now...head down and do the work 🤷🏼‍♂️

When I started at Nike as an ETW I would've done anything to get a black badge, but by the time I left I actually felt bad for the couple of FTE's on my team. By then, Nike had cut a lot of the perks and were just starting the never ending rounds of reorgs. I remember them coming back from their FTE only meetings looking more stressed than we all were.

By that time, I had been doing the work of multiple people, and saving my team $$$ from not having to use an agency, that I had a ton of leeway despite only being an ETW. Heck, I knew things at the management level that the FTE's on our team didn't know about. Yes, I did feel a little bit of pride but I look back now at how fu--ing ridiculous the whole experience was. Just glad I'm in a much better place where I'm actually valued.

Lmao. OP is so fu--ing d-mb. The pay for FTE is much better. You don’t see ETWs getting guaranteed salary, PSP, ESPP, options/RSUs, free phones, 401k match, short & long term disability, maternity and paternity, etc. Get a fu--ing grip. If you’re not paid well as an FTE it’s probably because you didn’t interview well or didn’t negotiate…

lol… lazy and entitled OP. I’ve yet to see an org where ETWs get treated better than FTEs in Nike. Barring a very, very, very small percentage of ETWs who are actually former employees now vendors selling a “service”, most ETWs are underpaid and actually do the grunt work.. you know, the work that was actually meant to be done by a FTE but your short sighted leader didn’t want to approve the HC and now 5 years later, it’s still being done by an ETW who keeps getting promised that next year might just be the year.

Nike’s ETW policies are such bullsh-t that the vendors don’t even enforce the contract when Nike violates it because they know they’ll be able to steal from the company some other way.

You sound soft. Do you understand what work is? Do you need praise for doing your job? That’s what the money is for.
Oh you think not enough money? Buddy a real company you’d be working even more for less.
Oh you have to do extra work because our leadership is cr-p? That’s everybody bruh.

Go read the legal policies. It’s a thing called Co-employment laws. There are rules to follow, it’s not personal.

Hmm I can see that but don’t share the overall sentiment. I do wish you got more recognition for your hard work though, obv your leadership needs to do better. Let me share my pov.
Although some employees prefer being ETWs for certain reasons, most would want the stability of being an FTE, anecdotally at least. My interpretation for a hyperzealous “job well done” towards ETWs is a layer of unspoken guilt on behalf of FTEs, that they are like second class citizens to Nike. Especially through the eyes of a former ETW and current FTE. I could expand more but I won’t now.
I will also add that I used to be a contractor for the biggest tech company and was not hired through an agency, but rather directly through the team who approached me and assured me over and over again they are getting headcount to convert me to FTE. Tldr; hiring freeze time so it never happened. Within my team, I felt amazing. Within the company, I felt constantly excluded and it pained me. Like getting left out of the dinner table on holidays. I would have chosen a conversion with a paycut over staying as a contractor, that’s how much it affected my psychology over time. My former manager has guilt over that to this day. And I have sympathy for ETWs because who knows what they were told when they started.