Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

There is an announcement by Legg team where it’s mentioned full work day (generally 8 hour.

Go to share point site and search “ATS Employees : Updates on Office Presence”

You will see.

“ It's 2025. Probably available online”

Nope. Coming up empty on Intranet search for “Handbook” .

"Been here 30 years and have never been issued one"

It's 2025. Probably available online.

I was just let go due to some RTO non-compliance 'investigation' from back in Jan. Little bit sad about it, but some relief too. No longer do i have to stress about being in an overfilled office and having to resort to sitting in the cafe area, which obviously I couldn't perform my job duties properly in.

whats to see if you have NO HOURS? it reports NOTHING (0) you are probably on the March NO HOURS report and HR will be calling your supervisor probably this week. Oh when you get the call, the ball is already in motion.

"’I've never been in the office (hourly report literally says nothing because theres no data). I was surprised to survive the last round of firings. Haven’t even gotten a call from HR. They get rid of who they want to, and use the report to do it without severance.

People that think they’re safe are just kidding themselves. Next, they’ll fire you if you don’t have a green square on GitHub everyday."

John Stinky / Jeff McStoopish
"you need to collaborate"..

HR
"your hourly report shows you were on the network but no data was used for 1-2 hours"

I’ve never been in the office (hourly report literally says nothing because theres no data). I was surprised to survive the last round of firings. Haven’t even gotten a call from HR. They get rid of who they want to, and use the report to do it without severance.

People that think they’re safe are just kidding themselves. Next, they’ll fire you if you don’t have a green square on GitHub everyday.

“You should be collaborating with local coworkers.”

Who are you to make such a stupid and ignorant statement?
Our local coworkers are now in India and Israel. Jeremy took our work and gave it to Israel. He didn’t even have the decency to tell us. The Israeli team popped up out of nowhere and began doing our jobs, becoming belligerent towards us as their foothold grew stronger. Pieces of pure sh-t. Everyone involved.

“and no point of being there.”
You should be collaborating with local coworkers.

"How does att have so many people who work in a location where they don't have any other people they work with in their local area? This is the excuse that keeps coming up for invalidating rto. Did people move during covid?"

Our team was intentionally built to be spread across the country. It both increased cultural diversity and made it so we could have a physical body in any local market on short notice. Originally all full time remote positions with occasional in person meetings, now everyone reports to buildings with no team members and no point of being there.

What's illegal about it? Not putting it in the handbook? The fact that there are some exceptions or people getting away with non compliance? I doubt any of those things are against the law. Probably a disclaimer in the handbook.

A company can face legal consequences if there is a violation of federal, state or civil law. Treating all people equally, especially within the same organization, is imperative as a preemptive legal defense when a lawsuit is filed. Treating people differently within the same organization or in similar organizations must not give the appearance of targeting, special treatment, mistreatment, favoritism, nepotism, etc. or you open yourself up to legal challenges. This is why we don’t have AVPs, VPs, or anyone else providing dissimilar instructions to employees.

" Not putting it in the handbook? --Probably a disclaimer in the handbook..."

What the F is this "handbook" we're speaking of?

Been here 30 years and have never been issued one.

" I said that doing so would be condoning and maligning myself with possible illegal corporate practices."

What's illegal about it? Not putting it in the handbook? The fact that there are some exceptions or people getting away with non compliance? I doubt any of those things are against the law. Probably a disclaimer in the handbook.

"How does att have so many people who work in a location where they don't have any other people they work with in their local area? This is the excuse that keeps coming up for invalidating rto. Did people move during covid?"

A lot of people did make unapproved relocations during Covid, and many of those are now being told to plan for being assigned to a hub in the near future. There are also a lot of good old boys being allowed to continue to work remotely in regions without a hub. Cronyism has its perks.

DUI hire just like Pete hegseth

“”It is outdated like DEI””

More to come, keep it up WFH, my job feels safer every day.

11 terminated in Engineering & Operations by HR on 3/16

OP here. Those that said I would be contacted by HR were correct. I just received an email at 4:00 PM a d a phone call at 4:15 PM. I said no thank you. The lady was d-mbfounded by my response so I repeated, no thank you. She said, well what exactly does that mean? I explained that I have not opted in nor have I provided verbal or written consent of agreement with an arbitrary policy which has not been documented, published, or applied to all employees of AT&T. I said that doing so would be condoning and maligning myself with possible illegal corporate practices. That was the end of that conversation as she concluded the conversation rather hastily.

“I enjoy working from home like everyone else. After rto, there is a difference. More communication, over the shoulder teaching and information sharing. Not saying this to make people mad. Just my opinion, if everyone is wfh all the time, team effectiveness is less.”

I disagree. I am now seeing how overpaid some teammates are who can’t do anything in their own without running to someone else’s desk for hand holding. I am interrupted multiple times a day and I find it distracting and it takes away from my productivity to have to stop and “collaborate.”

“I enjoy working from home like everyone else. After rto, there is a difference. More communication, over the shoulder teaching and information sharing. Not saying this to make people mad. Just my opinion, if everyone is wfh all the time, team effectiveness is less.”

My team is split so this only happens selectively and I intentionally sit some place that’s quiet so I can actually get work done. This ‘coffee maker interaction’ BS is way overblown by ‘leaders’ as a justification for wasting time commuting to a big d-mb box to send emails and still sit on conference calls.

Why don't all employees capable of WFH just quit going into the office? What could they do? Absolutely nothing. This would teach them a lesson not soon forgotten! Think about it!

WFH to get some golfing in. Will send out some email late. Working hard.

It is outdated like DEI

The only people I know on FT WFH said no to following the job but are on projects they really need. They all know they're on borrowed time and will get the boot at some point, but I think T really needed them to finish those projects.

Cool story bro

This guy and all the others with the courage of their convictions ...
This guy is full of beans. He's asking for others to set themselves up for getting fired.

Go this route - better hope this economy doesn't tank.

This guy and all the others with the courage of their convictions and ability to parse BS required to ignore stupid policies are who we need running this company. If I had the power I would promote everyone still WFH.

 @av+1jr83qvys

No. That is not happening. Fact - I hear my coworkers talk, where i could contribute but I deliberately ignore these conversations. If I were asked directly, that's one thing but I never, never jump in.

I chuckle to myself about the wonderful world of collaboration we've been given.

All you naive commenters crack me up. Do you really believe that there is one set of rules for everyone? 😄

So sorry you all are stuck with the plebians that trundle in. Does it make you feel any better to say "hurr durr you'll be fired soon"? As if you are in some position to really know...

Get a life already.

OK. What is you’re proof beyond this d-mb AF post?

I'm curious how long you have been able to WFH without getting canned. The reason I ask is so I can know when I am going to get canned for WFH as well?

How does att have so many people who work in a location where they don't have any other people they work with in their local area? This is the excuse that keeps coming up for invalidating rto. Did people move during covid? Or they were originally hired remote a long distance from the rest of team?

Yes it works , on the weekends.

Explain. Because people are being terminated for not working hours and days required per the policy.

Name one.

“More communication, over the shoulder teaching and information sharing“

Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

No one on my team is in that office. Just like when I am at home. So there is no difference, except for the 180 mile round-trip commute. I literally talk to no one all day in the office.

And this new tactic of making it sound like you’re on our side, but then explaining how RTO is actually better is not fooling anybody. So stop it.

Post by someone that won’t be here for much longer. Fired is what you’ll end up. No severance and no unemployment.

Hey the grass grows on company time.

nobody in our org has to follow this lame RTO

Sounds like insubordination to me. And if the economy tanks, look for unemployment to go up.

Great news we still have some leadership in our company verses all the a$$ kissers bowing to nonsense!