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Inconsistent!! Any advice?

Been in this company for over 16 years
Got inconsistent for the first time ever,
any advice on how to escalate this to HR? Does it even work these days?
My boss said I met the objectives and yet he awarded inconsistent.
Close to retirement and not looking to switch jobs.
Only serious advice please!!
Save the trolls!!

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@5rj+1jm2zev14
Maybe don’t take advantage of your direct reports that are of younger age.

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Post ID: @5rp+1jm2zev14

many older employees getting bad pr's although better in the past. Ford has been guilty of this before. might be time for another class action.

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@a4+1jm2zev14

If an employee did as you described, they should be rated a 3. I don’t know where you got “must meet objectives on their own without help” as a criteria for a met rating. Seems arbitrary and silly. Also works against team work and collaboration. No one should be discouraged from seeking help when needed.

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Post ID: @118+1jm2zev14

Find one of the remaining pension eligible old-timers about what happened leading up to Jacques the Kn--e getting the company into the loosing side of an age discrimination class action suit. Nothing new under the sun.

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Post ID: @wq+1jm2zev14

@qm+1jm2zev14 - he was honest with you.

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Post ID: @rc+1jm2zev14

My manager (who is new to ford) was straight with me and said they had to rate everyone inconsistent on at least one OS behavior and said it’s d-mb and they got in trouble with HR for ignoring doing that tbe first time

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Post ID: @qm+1jm2zev14

Don’t worry about your PR rating. Nobody ever reads them anyway. Especially being close to retirement, PR rating does not matter. For the last ten years of my career, I wrote my own PR! I was fortunate enough to retire 3 years ago when they offered packages. After 33 years, it was time to go. Took the lump sum so I didn’t have to worry about the company being able to pay the monthly pension going forward. During my time at F, I witnessed some of the most incompetent people promoted to management role, simply based on their willingness to re-locate. I saw many talented people leave and do great things elsewhere. Ford lost a ton of great talent but nobody cared.

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Post ID: @j9+1jm2zev14

We need to rate JF an inconsistent and put our CEO on a pip. He's near retirement, let him take a dose of his own medicine and broom out everyone over 50 with years of experience. I'm starting to buy Ford stock because it's only a matter of time before JF gets fired, which should be an immediate lift to the stock.....

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Post ID: @ew+1jm2zev14

This is the easiest place ever to gaslight people. Lol

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Post ID: @d9+1jm2zev14

Serious advice here - stop being so serious when close to retirement.

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Post ID: @d8+1jm2zev14

@af+1jm2zev14 GFY a--h-le!

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Post ID: @bk+1jm2zev14

You are a PIP candidate

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@af+1jm2zev14

Imo you have a very narrow view. I work across town and this year several employees received lower ratings and the feedback they got couldn’t offer any good explanation. The employee met or exceeded measurable targets, even improved in some areas but HR has quotas now so someone needs to take the hit and it’s usually folks hr wants to gradually push out the door.

People need to read the room of what’s going on here imo. Sales are softening, share prices are down, there are macroeconomic pressures/uncertainties, programs are being cut or cancelled. Employers are looking for excuses to get rid of people at minimal costs rather it’s based of real facts or not.

Managers like you that defend that are pieces of sh-t.

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Post ID: @ak+1jm2zev14

Ugh, these are the worst employees. They think because they had good ratings in the past that when they get a low rating the system is at fault. As a manager, I can tell you that HR will back us every time. You have a choice to either listen to the feedback and do better, pout and quit saying it is unfair, or do nothing and get laid off when your manager has a chance to deal with you.

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Post ID: @af+1jm2zev14

Save as much money as possible. You may soon be out of work and need to live on savings until you get another job.

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Post ID: @a8+1jm2zev14

Was it on the what or how?

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Post ID: @a7+1jm2zev14

Our org was told that if you leader doesn’t meet their objectives, it’s because you didn’t meet yours. In practice what that meant was that leaders with an inconsistent rating were required to have at least 50% of their team ranked inconsistent or below. Apparently that direction was from DF.

Don’t expect help from HR. Their boss has signed off on the ratings and it’s their job now to defend it. They will just tell you to talk to your boss.

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Post ID: @a6+1jm2zev14

It appears as he did with a personal vendetta. Been mocked for my age and being slow and health reason. And unfortunately don’t have any proofs. I’m the third generation working here!!

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Post ID: @a5+1jm2zev14

well, think about how you met your objectives. did you need any help to get them finished? Did you follow up on your own? did your boss have to call in to meetings because of your deliverables?
If yes then = inconsistent.

I know employees who say "I sent an email" as if that was all they could do.
you really need to be self motivated and know how to push things through to completion.

another issue could be that other people couldn't do their job because you didn't deliver. causing other downstream delivery issues.

People need to start to think differently and listen to what others are saying.
You may not like it, but that is the reality we live in today.

Very few people can actually drive everything to closure themselves these days so inconsistent can be given to about 90% of employees.

stinks, but that's how it goes.

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Post ID: @a4+1jm2zev14

Many inconsistents were handed out to meet quotas, not because of actual performance. HR isn't going help you out, they'll help you out of the door.

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Post ID: @a3+1jm2zev14

Close to retirement as well, no Ford pension, had one inconsistent rating for the mid-year, met for all end of year.
I would not lose sleep over it.

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