What a joke. Deny cloud for years now try to jump on the bandwagon. You can’t BS the numbers. Talk about OCI’s impressive growth but you are starting from a small number. And to have the cloud denier himself as a keynote speaker? What a hot mess…this is embarrassing
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@wvy+1j4lX3YO You may think that you more insight into cloud security vulnerabilities than anyone else, but I assure you that you are WAY off track. AWS and Azure in particular are thriving for many reasons, and there is no doubt that one of them is security. I think that you are some "Oracle loyalist" employee who's seeing his career in serious jeopardy, and you are correct in believing so.
OCI is a joke in the industry and has absolutely no footprint whatsoever. Most customers I've worked with don't even know that Oracle has its own cloud platform. Customers have been migrating off Oracle to Snowflake and many other platforms for years, which provide their own top-notch security on top of that provided by AWS, Azure, and GCP.
So for those of you in OCI, take note - You're supporting nothing more than a dying platform, so take your skills to a company that is excelling on cloud. Don't stick around at Oracle worrying about layoffs.
You make several very valid points, but you also neglected one point. Who actually LIKES Oracle? How many people do you know that says "gee, I like Oracle, I love doing business with them, their support and service are fairly priced and very responsive". Say what you want about JB and Amazon, but people for the most part LIKE doing business with them. Anytime I have had a problem, they've resolved it as fast as they could. They are always trying to improve the experience and Keep the customer.
If people had a choice between doing business with Oracle and a pile of horse apples, I think the horse apples win.
You still have not addresses Oracle’s puny market share and surely you don’t think sitting on the sideline for 7 years, then coming out with a “Gen 1” disaster was a good cloud strategy do you? But hey, let’s go to CloudWorld to hear how to do cloud from these laggards??? Laughable. If we didn’t have Oracle databases already they would not get any of my attention.
Wait - Oracle said everything with Autonomous Database was hands off? AI does it all for you. Even optimizes your queries so you don’t need a DBA. And it never goes down. Larry said that so it must be true right? Oh and it’s 10 cheaper too
Fudge and feel good huh? Here's a bit of a snarky response to yours. You stick with your vendor's Cloud religious sect and see what happens. The fact that you state "And security is now a strength of...." demonstrates that you do more reading about Cloud security than practicing it. You can use those points in your defense when your manager replaces you for trusting a vendor and NOT performing your own due diligence. Hopefully this puts an end to the snarky responses.
My organization is in the process of migrating into 3 different commercial Clouds (1 vendor migration fully completed) and I'm telling you getting the security posture and defenses in-place and correct is a time consuming and major undertaking for each vendor. We discovered vulnerabilities that the vendor SME's didn't even know about and/or were buggy and needed addressed. I suggest you try running a series of professional Red Team 'attacks' against your Landing Zone(s)/enclaves and review the NIST docs and you'll see what I'm talking about. You have to constantly stay diligent on what is in place and what's missing as the vendors update and/or change things in their Cloud that you won't always know about. Keep in mind that the vendors will tell you that their security has never been breached. That's a partial truth because they shift all of the security for your enclave onto you the customer and if there is a breach it's the fault of your Security crew.
So believe or don't. It's up to you to have ZERO trust of everyone and guard your enclave. Even the Cloud vendors will tell you that. Try reading the below as a start:
This publication is available free of charge from:
https://doi.org/10.6028/NIST.SP.800-53r5
You are correct though in that OCI is the weakest offering to date and has a long way to go.
Whether this is the forum or not, I'm just trying to share some basics truths and help the community. It's just the state of the Cloud environment now and if someone tells you differently then believe them at the risk of yourself and that of your Corp/Org's security.
@wvy+1j4lX3YO Good job trying to make yourself feel better. AWS is so far ahead because Oracle ignored the biggest IT market opportunity ever. They have 35% compared to Oracle’s 1.5%. Oracle will survive but as a tired legacy company that struggles to win new customers. Unlike Oracle, they can’t fudge their numbers because they are 100% cloud. And security is now a strength of AWS and Azure. #LateToCloud
How long have you been in IT? This is how biz is conducted across the board by every successful company regardless of Cloud or No Cloud. It is a business and not a religion and needs to be seen as such.
You're free to change your skills and what you have to offer to make yourself marketable so why can't Oracle and every other person and/or vendor do the same? If the past is an indicator then Oracle will survive and thrive because they're willing to do whatever it takes to earn in the Cloud. Again, you don't have to like what vendors do and they don't care.
Big tip: Marketing departments lie and lie big to win your business so make sure you factor that in when believing in their reported market share stats. Pay attention to how many customers leave a Cloud vendor and you may get closer to the truth.
Just relax and see where their Cloud offerings go. I have been working with other Cloud vendors and none of them are that great - yet. They're all pretty weak on security and they charge way more than they lead you to believe initially.
In my experience with migrating applications into the Cloud, vendors get a lot of your money when you have to add in the necessary 'features' we've all become accustomed to over the years with our on-premise or non-Cloud hosting environments that are not part of the default Cloud environment . We've run into many unexpected surprises that increased our overall monthly costs. Pick your vendor and you pick your poison.
And you can catch it all on Oracle TV!