Those laid off should think twice about going back into Oracle. Oracle is a dying company with no prospects and more layoffs looming on the horizon.
It might seem like the simplest thing to do right now, but some work to find a better company now may pay off big time in the future.
After all, who really wants to work at Oracle. There are so many better options out there for everyone.
Time for all of us to move on.
Do everything on the cheap, expect customers to pay through the nose for everything
This is not going to work for long. Oracle is headed down the drain. Definitely a place to stay away from.
A note on OCI. LE believes he can win the cloud race with superior cloud software. SC believes that its not wise to invest billions in infrastructure in the hopes that customers may adopt Oracle Cloud.
You just described Oracle in total. Do everything on the cheap, expect customers to pay through the nose for everything, they will all be seduced by the mystique that is Oracle, throw their money at it and it will all magically work. Oh, and I am not convinced the OCI software all all that superior. I've seen so many P1 bugs in Oracle software right out of the box I wouldn't trust it if you gave me long odds.
Oracle blew it big time when they got rid of Sun Cloud back in 2010. Sun invented the cloud.
It was two Indian guys that developed the alpha software. They actually gave it to me to test. It was pretty crude didn’t have a lot of automation but within about four hours I had a fully functioning cloud and I was provisioning virtual machines at Will. This was 2007 2008 timeframe. I was pretty impressed with the software and it works with virtually any x32 or x64 machines running Solaris. They did say they could port it to any operating system however.
Considering how early in the development stage they were I was very impressed with it and I can’t help that they went to a place like Amazon or Google and it’s the backbone for their clouds.
In my exit interview I told HR that I would never consider coming back to Oracle so you might as well as check the “never to be rehired” checkbox. I considered everything before making that statement, I’d rather pack shelves at the supermarket then work for an organisation that treats everyone so poorly. The lack of growth, poor products, mismanagement was unbelievable.
The problem with being made redundant is that you are now in direct competition with everyone else for the same jobs and because roles can be done remotely it’s much more difficult to stand out. Good luck to you all, and remember “stepping stones” the next role doesn’t have to be the long term one, as long as you continue to work on your growth and learning than employers will always appreciate that.
Employees at Oracle can become very siloed from the rest of the world. The post on the reality of OCI compared to the competition is very enlightening for me. Within Oracle, it seems like OCI is the place to be, but when you look at it from outside, it is clear that OCI has no long-term chance of success.
Best to look elsewhere! If you have been laid off, now is the time to make a change!
Oracle blew it big time when they got rid of Sun Cloud back in 2010. Sun invented the cloud.
Think about this, posted elsewhere, but I repeat here:
A note on OCI. LE believes he can win the cloud race with superior cloud software. SC believes that its not wise to invest billions in infrastructure in the hopes that customers may adopt Oracle Cloud. So you will continue to have what you have always had, a few rented Equinix datacenters running the OCI.
This is supposed to compete with the hundreds of billions of dollars invested in real cloud datacenters by Amazon, Google and Microsoft.
Really?
If you don't get it, which LE clearly does not. Infrastructure and networking matters. Right now if you have modern cloud native applications running in AWS and you need to get information out of an Oracle database running in OCI your options are limited. You can route traffic over the public internet or pay to lay dark fiber or some sort of dedicated network from the AWS datacenter to the Equinix datacenter. Why incur this extra cost.
I was employed at Oracle back in 2017 when we sold a 15k OCI deal to a customer and this issue came up. The cost of the direct connect was 50k a month. So our deal went from 15k to 615k in the blink of an eye. Do you think the customer bought? Nope they walked to a real cloud provider.
Its easer and cheaper to use a NoSQL solution like MongoDB, Couchbase etc... and rewrite the app to use JSON instead of relational than to deal with this nonsense.
TK was president of Oracle back then and he quit and walked to Google. He knew it was total nonsense.
I am not saying anything bad about the Oracle OCI software. I am simply referring to the laws of physics. The speed of light and network latency are real physical issues not solved in anyway by better software.
The cool kids with the real clouds are developing newer and better cloud offerings everyday. Their software with machine learning, data warehousing, databases, networking, and scalability and high availability offering is growing by leaps and bounds. They are even building fast private network connections between the major cloud providers.
You think Oracle OCI can keep up with all of that? No way possible.
OCI can not possibly compete now or ever. This is why Oracle is losing database market share. It is quickly fading into obscurity as all legacy technologies eventually do. Working for Oracle means the norm is continued layoffs. The employee base will become cheaper, and fewer to keep profitability high as Oracle shrinks into greatness.
by Harbinger
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I agree that the lay-offs are handled in a non-acceptable way but Oracle is also doing many things right atm. Especially in Fusion and OCI. (I'm an employee since 15 years in various non-management roles)
One thing I should have added was the $73 billion debt that Oracle is now dragging around.