Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Career Impact of “Good”

After back to back years of being ranked “excellent”, I got a new supervisor and they tinkered with our ranking group and I ended up with a ranking of “good”. All after having objectively my best year of work.

Setting aside the emotional aspect of getting shafted and acknowledging that this will negatively impact my raise calculation, are there actual career limiting implications with a ranking like this? It’s about time for me to move roles, will this preclude me from better assignments and promotions?

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Post ID: @OP+1i2AUIxw

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The vector is down. Expect minimal pay raises (if you are lucky you get inflation) and no promotion in next 3 years. Next year you might be NI, because another the 10% at the bottom will resign and then you get ranked next year with the bottom 10% no longer in the rank group.

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Post ID: @8urn+1i2AUIxw

@2cvd

“…maybe you should work for the Pinkertons.”

What are you, 100 years old?

Wait, don’t tell me; you also use the term “octaroon” without irony and spread molasses on your toast.

Please retire if you haven’t already done so.

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Post ID: @2glu+1i2AUIxw

@uja+1i2AUIxw The shareholders thank you for your service. When your department gets outsourced to BTC, maybe you should work for the Pinkertons.

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Post ID: @2cvd+1i2AUIxw

@OP Maybe you’re not as good as you think you are.

@ntl There are entire websites dedicated to white grievance. Let’s not make this board any worse than it already is by flogging it here.

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Post ID: @2vfh+1i2AUIxw

I’m with S & D and Good is Good. It right now managers are looking for employees Good and better so it shouldn’t gender you. Your potential is set by your supervisor’s manager, so if it truest is a situation where you got a new boss and they have a different assessment of you then your potential will stay, and your development plan will stay which would have been reflective of the sustained high performance. Reach out to your S&D advisor and get the truth behind the situation. They are there to work these exact situations and get you in a role you perform the best at.

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Post ID: @2mmn+1i2AUIxw

The company is committed to reducing total headcount, the assessment process is a key part of that reduction plan. What’s good this year will be NI next year. The ability for management to make broad moves in the ranking year to year ensures none of us are safe and we are indeed on a yearly contract.
If the pure ranking process is not enough to achieve the targeted headcount, the company will take the 2020 approach where your “fit” in the company directions comes in play. This means you could be ranked E, not be a fit and be laid off. I saw this happen to a number of folks and it could happen to you or I.

The company could easily hit the target headcount with a proper package offering however that means they give up too much control and spend more dollars…

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Post ID: @1oyc+1i2AUIxw

If you don't see this as a sign to start looking for another job, then you might be creating false hope for yourself. When the Titanic was sinking, the wise move was to try and get on a lifeboat and escape, and not just seek a higher place to remain on the ship. At least you have the luxury of a few months to calmly do a job search without feeling like you're being pushed out the door.

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Post ID: @1xeg+1i2AUIxw

It will affect you for your entire career. Immediate effects will impact your salary, but longer impacts will hit your potential CL and stunt CL progression.

I equate it to an adaptive test (think GRE, GMAT, etc.). The first five questions establish the general score that you will get...all other questions are fine tuning that score. Similar to your early career at XOM.

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Post ID: @1kzw+1i2AUIxw

I believe your career has taken a serious hit with this "Good". It is not unexpected in the current environment. I've heard of people dropping from Excellent to NI or NSI in one year for no particular reason. Just too many HiPos in that group, I guess. So, Good is Good, in the sense that you get to keep your job for another year. But, you can forget about any meaningful raises, opportunities, career progression, etc. etc. for years to come. I'd take the hit and start looking for another job right now. Unless you are two or three years away from retirement. I'm sure they will NSI you next year. Good luck.

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Post ID: @1yja+1i2AUIxw

Most moves to good roles are based off of relationships. How strong is your network? If the people forming teams think highly of you they won’t care what your ranking is.

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Post ID: @1ujj+1i2AUIxw

It will essentially roll off in two years as your CL increases are based on the lowest of a rolling two year assessment, which they refer to as “sustained performance”. So this year the math will be based off E and G, which will result in a G. Next year, if you do G or better, you will still be G. The following year, your G from this year will roll off and your promotion math will be based on the lower of the two periods after your G.

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Post ID: @1mgo+1i2AUIxw

Depends on your function I would imagine. OP, are you UPD, UOG? How many years with the company?

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Post ID: @1wmq+1i2AUIxw

You're sunk.
And learn to communicate better.

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Post ID: @1eaq+1i2AUIxw

@1ftz+1i2AUIxw this sh-t here is a great example of how the system is broken. Person looks at the rank and makes a judgement call based off of that alone. GTFO. I came in as an experienced hire, this company has its head in its a-s so deep over these rankings.

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Post ID: @1fni+1i2AUIxw

Let's be honest - if I'm working a major project for the organization, and they offer me a 'good' candidate, then it needs to be a perfect fit. Vs, if you are 'outstanding', I'd be willing to stretch you to put you into the role.

Being 'good' means that you can (potentially) get less rewarding assignments as future supervisors will be less willing to take a risk with you. Also, even though it's now a year-to-year assessment process... you've broken that VG barrier, and are far likely to achieve a lower assessment again in future years.

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Post ID: @1ftz+1i2AUIxw

In my experience of two decades - yes. You could move upward or downward, but it is a flag- that Does carry weight longer than immediate short term.

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Post ID: @1zng+1i2AUIxw

You will be fine. It is annoying that you feel slighted but I am sure if you have performed well in the past this will be counted too.

Don’t let this silly system define you. You are in control of your happiness so make sure you push through this disappointment.

Be mindful.

Good luck.

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Post ID: @1awc+1i2AUIxw

I bet it impacts you slightly, but probably not too bad if it’s a one off year

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Post ID: @1ykn+1i2AUIxw

Nobody is safe. Especially white males close retirement. You know the ones 50s just under the safe zone. Or if your job can be contracted out. Start an exit strategy before your the one.

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Post ID: @ntl+1i2AUIxw

Crybaby. Put in more effort next year. Reclaim your place.

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Post ID: @uja+1i2AUIxw

“Hey, good is good.” Beats totally getting shafted and blindsided like so many of us.

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Post ID: @pod+1i2AUIxw

@jxe- I don’t believe that Good is a black mark. If people know you and your good performance, I doubt any hiring manager will care.

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Post ID: @xyi+1i2AUIxw

Only impacts roles if the potential is changed which doesn't usually happen after just 1 year of "lesser" performance. Will impact potential promotion (there is a semi-official table of years in a given CL based on performance/ranking).

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Post ID: @twp+1i2AUIxw

Yes. It is a black mark that will stay with your for a few years. You can recover unlike NSI, but this will definitely impact your next role.

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Post ID: @jxe+1i2AUIxw

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