There was an all hands meeting today and we were told the Lemmon Ave plant in Dallas tx is closing officially as of 12/31/24. No questions were allowed to be asked. Most of us expect to be laid off long before that date.
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A toxic enviroment it was there. Because of them.
Attention Leadership Team. Their are management openings at McDonalds.
What is interesting. Is that Raytheon forced all the unvacinated workers out. At the end of December 2021. Then Raytheon made the June 23, 2022 announcement. To close the Lemmon Ave. Plant. Along with all it's vacinated workers. With closing effective December 31, 2024.
DALLAS LEMMON AVE. THEY HAD ISSUES IN BRINGING IN OUTSIDE GOOD MACHINIST. BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO PAY. SO ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO. THEY STARTED THIS INTERNAL MACHINIST TRAINING PROGRAM. WITH DISPATCHERS, FLUID TECH PERSONEL, CUSTODIANS, AND OTHER LOWER SKILLED PEOPLE. AFTER THIS TRAINING. THEY WERE PUT ON CNC MACHINES. THIS HAD A CONTRIBUTING EFFECT ON THE LEMMON AVE. SCRAP AND LINE RETURNS OF THEIR PRODUCTS.
RAYTHEON LEMMON AVE. MANAGEMENT WAS KNOWN AS CAT LITER MANAGEMENT. BECAUSE THEY SCREWED UP ALOT. BUT THEY KNEW HOW TO COVER UP THEIR MESS.
Great former Raytheon managers. That had retired. Were brought back as Contractor Consultants. To Raytheon Lemmon Ave. As of today. Those managers are still there in their low to mid 70's of age. This tells people. That Raytheon Lemmon Ave. Knew they had major issues with scrap and line returns of parts on the machine shop floor. Previous replies were absolutely right. About major scrap issues.
Don't forget the round trip airfares included to Chicago. For these managers. But end result. No new equipment bought. A previous reply was right. 20 to 50 year old junk at Lemmon Ave. Every year management went to the Chicago Tool Show. But no machinery purchased. Another instance at Lemmon Ave. Years ago they told us that their were no more money in the budget for that year. To implement safety reports. But yet, That very next morning. Someone from the corner office. Went to the cafeteria. saying that they needed 18 breakfast plates. Cylinder of coffee. Cylinder of orange juice. For a corner office conference that morning. But yet no money in the budget. To implement safety projects.
Mmmm! Hotel + Food + Cub's games = Plant closures.
Every year. Alot of the Management at Raytheon Lemmon Ave. Used to go to the Chicago Tool Show every September. When they got back to Lemmon Ave. Site. Some of the Managers used to tell the shop people. How they had steak and eggs for breakfast. Steak and shrimp for lunch. A steak and lobster for dinner. While in Chicago for the tool show. Every year after they returned from Chicago. They would say this. Also some of the managers would tell the shop people. How they attended the Chicago Cubs home games. When the Chicago Cubs were in town. During the Chicago Tool Show.
To whoever the id--t is that said the management and employees are outstanding, please go be a ja----s somewhere else. I worked at this facility for many years, and this is the worst management I have ever dealt with in my life. 80% of the entire workforce was absolutely incapable of doing even the bare minimum job requirements. Which is why the scrap rate was over 40%, close to 50%. Nothing in that building was state of the art. The bulk of the equipment (at least 80%) was old 20-50 year old junk that never had PM’s done on them because they company was to cheap to spend money on anything. The facility was outdated, the workforce was lazy and outdated and the management was a disgrace. You never worked at this facility. If you have nothing else to do besides come on a site and act like you work somewhere that you very obviously don’t/didn’t then you are one sad pathetic individual.
EVERYTHING EVENTUALLY RISES AND FALLS UNDER CORPORATE MANAGEMENT. NO MATTER WHAT COMPANY IT IS.
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What a joke. Ya'll have no idea about this facility. Management and employees are outstanding. Manufacturing equipment and capabilities are state of the art. The demands from Tucson are unrealistic and their Manufacturing facilities are not held to the same standards.
Yea heard RTX planned to reduce footprint. Already eliminated some PW and Collins sites back east. In CA there is the Goleta and Fullerton locations that can be eliminated and all work consolidated to El Segundo. Lots of space now since everyone is working from home and lots of offices are being converted to labs.
Now that Raytheon has merged with Rockwell-Collins, and Pratt-Whitney they are now exposed much more to Commercial market influences than they ever were. The last time they had this exposure (not as much as now) was in the 90s when they still had some smaller commercial ventures (a Small Aircraft factory in Kansas?).
The new RayTurd took a gamble on the commercial market exposure for hopeful future gains in Hypersonic sales. What we are seeing now is a "consolidation" of the merger for that new focus.
I am not sure why anyone might be perplexed ; regarding the closing of RMS in Dallas. Raytheon technologies upon their merger; stated, they were going to reduce their carbon footprint, reduce space, and decrease plants- As well as, decrease satellite sides. why are you all taken by surprise? Anyone could see, plant in Dallas was extremely outdated. product was slow, if the fact it was delivered. anyone , with any business savvy, would understand closing the plant was more cost effective. RMS hAs long since had a free ride , buffered by government contracts, that time is coming to an end. If you can not see that, no one can help you see.
In response to @bzre+1hnM75m8's comments I'm going to chime in as the voice of reason here to straighten a few facts out:
1: The hiring gap started in the late 80's and ended around 2000. How do I know this? I was the lead part of Gen X that came into the industry after that long hiring pause.
2: The "Baby Boomers" (which I believe @bzre+1hnM75m8 is making reference too) started leaving, retiring, and dying around 2007, and has been steady up until recently. With the pandemic, and Wokeness that generation is now accelerated into retirement.
3: The statement "... horrible management, cooking the books, and the facility being out of date.", does have some merit as the Boomers at that point were in upper-level managerial positions, and did not want to change, or flat out didn't care (individual exceptions exist).
Gen X'ers were the first to experience a lot of these frustrations, sometimes to our detriment.
4: The statement ".....You have no idea what happened and your group/generation is at least half the reason everything is so out of whack for anyone under 45 years old in the workforce." I would say that is a little inaccurate. The leading edge of Gen X'rs are about 50 years old. We've been trying to push change the entire time while in the workforce, with little give to our frustrations.
Unfortunately, change comes by generation. I think you'll find that the Genx'rs have a lot in common with the succeeding generations in evolving the work environment, especially in technical areas. I think you should give the benefit of the doubt to those of use left not "burnt out" by the "Baby Boomer's" complacency.
Dude, are you seriously criticizing someone’s grammar on a layoff site? This is a layoff forum, not an English class. Stfu
to @bzre+1hnM75m8 ... WTF are you trying to say ????? at least the old people can spell, can use proper grammar and write sentences that make sense. If you're an example of the employees at that plant I can see why they are shutting it down. If they make parts they way you try to write they are in serious trouble.
Omg, shut your old dusty a-s up. Typical old person telling everyone how amazing they were and how sh---y we are. You never taught anyone how to do anything properly because they would bruise you oh so sensitive ego if someone was able to do something you could do. Ohhhhh nooo only you older people are allowed to know that. Ignore the fact that YALL were taught. You’re talking out of your a-s anyway you geriatric fu-k, the issue was horrible management, cooking the books, and the facility being out of date and then not wanting to invest in it. You have no idea what happened and your group/generation is at least half the reason everything is so out of whack for anyone under 45 years old in the workforce. Go shake your fu----g cane at someone else. “Your” tax dollars. lol. What a pompous as----e. You’re a poster child for a typical ignorant old fa-t.
Place is being shut down due to not being able to make parts properly. Scrap has gone through the rough due to low quality machinist. No firing whatsoever in this place no matter what a person does here. Management let this place go downhill.
Raytheon is going t1ts up!!!!!!! Will be sold off by UTC... slice and dice...
Nobody ever specifies on this site what their jobs even are. Most of the Lemmon Ave plant is blue collar manufacturing jobs. Most of the people that come to this site for info seem to be white collar job holders. McKinney was hinted at as a possibility for a few. Obviously McKinney doesn’t have 400+ openings for machinists and engineers.
People can retire? They can try to find something in McKinney or Plano. What about that new corporate building that was opened in Richardson prior to the pandemic and merger? Openings there? Hopefully opportunities elsewhere.
None of us expect to be there at the official closing date. I imagine after about 6-8 months it will be mostly a skeleton crew. Realistically it’ll be around Christmas when most of us get cut loos, as it is corporate tradition to do so around that time. If I’m not mistaken, there is some federal requirements that make them tell you in advance when a shut down of this size is done. He did say he was required to read from this document. Was just corporate verbage for we are closing the plant and the official closure date is 12/31/24. So for anyone asking where are the rumors, where’s the layoffs. Hope you’re happy now, the layoffs are here and the rumors were correct. Roughly 400 people if not more at this facility are going to be out of a job by this time next year.
Why are they making announcement now? To give people 2 years to look for a new job?
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