If you are guilty of:
I've seen all the above too often the last two years. You are the reason WFH is over.
@5ziu+1fzGYXR3
Or having meetings with people who are at home every other day and spending the first 10 minutes of a Teams or Skype call trying to get audio working because they are having to get used to switching between different hardware setups. It's happened on almost every call I have been on for the past month. Or you get the person who had their office taken by some visiting rando and have find new space and can't start a meeting on time.
How many times have you accidentally interrupted a co- worker on the phone at the office. Working in cubical means you have access to everyone so when you collaborate, you might accidentally interrupt a call. I don’t have that problem at home. When I’m in the office, I’m more likely to chat with people and wonder away from my desk checking the vending machines, hitting the bathrooms, looking for mail, etc.
OP- the last two years people worked from home because it was mandatory not by choice. The company just assumed everyone had a home office to work. At the same time schools were remote and childcare was non-existent. Is it really a problem that a kid is walking around HIS house and happens to appear in camera? If you are bothered by that just imagine how awful it will be in RTO when multiple team members are walking and talking by your cube while you and 5 other people near you are trying to hold different conference calls.
If it is my meeting, it starts when it is supposed to. If you’re late and you miss something, that’s on you. I would expect the same if the shoe was on the other foot.
There are expectations for your job, despite what many may think.
@1pzg+1fzGYXR3 sounds like you don't know how to manage your own time. I, on rare occasion, don't get an hour lunch and I've been excempt since 2003.
The OP raises a valid point. It did not help the case for ft WFH with the examples given occurring.
OP, The fact that you listed #4 tells me you are likely hourly. You don’t know what you are talking about. Calls are scheduled back to back whenever, including over the lunch hour - you either eat during the call or when your next 30 minute slot is open, even if that means lunch at 3pm. There’s never an hour available for lunch. Then because you were on calls most of the day, you get “actual” work done at 6:30pm because it’s finally quiet. The time for “actual” work at 6:30pm will disappear when we end up commuting again and we’ll go to an office simply to be on the phone all day.
So this is an admin assistant whining on this thread?
What a surprise.
@aih+1fzGYXR3 hey kid, you sound like your blood sugar is getting low. Call up to your mom to bring a snickers and a juice box down to you in the basement.
I think everyone knows what you 'juggle' on a regular basis. Don't worry. I'm sure, someday, a girl will touch you in your special place.
@gqt+1fzGYXR3
Trying to pull rank on an anonymous website is laughable.
I'm a three armed juggler from Eastern Europe and also the richest man in the world so you better watch out!
That's what you sound like.
Betters? you just proved you're the worst kind.
@rgg+1fzGYXR3 you whole post is horsesh!t. Who said anything about consistently scheduled breaks or lunch? Those timeframes however are what people are allowed. As far as better understanding as my career progresses; I've been in the workforce for over 35 years, I am well up the ladder in position and salary and bonus. Try to stay in your lane kid before trying to talk down to your betters.
@moc+1fzGYXR3
Why do you have to wait for everyone to join? You start when the meeting starts, so unless it's the host having an issue, there isn't a problem. If people come late, then that's on them. If people don't show because they are busy, that's on them.
@moc+1fzGYXR3
I must have missed something. I didn't know you worked in video conferencing. If hosting or attending meetings is your entire job, then yes I could see how it would be wasted. The meeting isn't you entire job. You do other things besides that too hopefully.
As I said if everyone is getting their work done and you have the occasional inconvenience like that but people have the added benefit of a greater life balance, that is true productivity.
@zaz+1fzGYXR3 how does one inconsiderate person working a little 'extra' make up for the lost time of the other 20 people on the call? You perfectly illustrate the problem..
you don't care how your self centered behavior impacts others.
@npo+1fzGYXR3
And if those people work a little earlier or a little later - which is much easier to do when remote - to make up that time then no productivity was lost. You may have had a few minutes of inconvenience on your meeting but if the work is getting done on time or according to deadline and those people have a life balance that is the true measure of productivity.
@npo+1fzGYX
That is how our meetings go, but we have to listen to our boss drone on about his latest vacation and then a wave of faux-interest questions from all of the a$$ kissers that takes up half of the meeting. Then rounds of random questions about what is going on in our personal lives. Finally we get to the actual content and guess what? It's maybe 15 minutes of content.
'Imagine being upset rather than heart-warmed by someone's pet showing up on camera.'
Imagine being on a call that actually utilized the camera.
Imagine showing up on time for a meeting and then spending ten minutes waiting for everyone to finish gushing over someone’s oh-so-adorable animal. Then waiting again while someone else deals with a squalling infant. Then having the meeting constantly interrupted by “Not now honey”. “Mommy’s working now honey “. “Just a minute everyone while I put a movie on”. “Watch Nemo now honey “.
When those people say they’re more productive working from home what they mean is they’re able to take care of more personal business during working hours.
Too bad they ruined it for those who do manage to work from home without making their problems everyone else’s problem.
@OP has only ever worked as a troll, never a real day of labor.
'Imagine being upset rather than heart-warmed by someone's pet showing up on camera.'
Imagine being on a call that actually utilized the camera.
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So how about calls starting late because upper management just wants to make people wait. It’s called a power play and I had a former Indian manager who loved to make people jump and cater to their whims.
I have even heard managers say they were home schooling, walking the dog, or dealing with a contractor. Are you going to say they were slacking off too.
That being said, when I started my career if you were five minutes early to a meeting, you were late. Times change, and people have to change with them. This company has shown they are opting not to do that except when it meets their attrition goals.
OP,
You obviously have a very limited view on how others work in this company.
Some of us work all hours due to the requirements of the job. There are no 15 min breaks nor any lunch hour as meetings are scheduled as needed within a 12 hour clock and sometimes later to include our India folks.
I have never had 15 minute or lunch hour breaks scheduled on a regular basis.
I take time whenever I can fit it in and mgmt is fine with that. You will find that out as you progress in your career but then, maybe not.
@ryz+1fzGYXR3, she held is up because we were waiting on her to join. You know you're supposed to be on call, and working, but you're in your backyard playing with the dog, and you admit it. This is why everyone is going back. Too d-mb.
Imagine being upset rather than heart-warmed by someone's pet showing up on camera.
And how was the call negatively affected by this individual being late? Was playing with her dog a greater offense than "Sorry, I had to step out of the office and take a dump."
Calls start late every single day for a variety of reasons, most of which are likely not that important. Get over it.
@ama+1fzGYXR3 with your #3 items, what you're saying is you are slacking off during the time you should be working. Enjoy your RTO slacker.
This is funny. I have 3 kids and two dogs, and have been interrupted far less in the past two years on calls than when I was in the office. In the office you have 50 people all on different calls while sitting 6 feet from the four other people around you and they're all trying to talk over everyone else...not distracting at all . Then, if/when a personal matter comes up, I get to spend and extra hour away from work commuting back home to take care of it.
@OP+1fzGYXR3
All of these would rule out the OC, MC, and perhaps most of the top 4 levels of management.
More talk from the Wells Fargo sponsored tolls. Enjoy your paycheck troll.
1 - have been interrupted in the office by conversations occurring in cubes next to mine or by the loud talker three rows over. A dog barks because of instinct. Loud humans are just not courteous a$$es.
2 - See number 1. Children are learning courtesy. I guess I work with some juveniles at the office.
3 - I've had to take care of a number of non work matters at the office. Telephones and personal devices allow us to do that now a days.
4 - I can find a lot more places to go in my urban office environment that extend my one hour lunch and two 15 minute breaks than I can in my rural house.
Go back under your rock.
It's true. We had a meeting and someone was late joining. Her excuse? "Sorry, I was outside playing with dog". No shame admitting it, either.