"this statement is typical of someone who has zero knowledge of the apps/saas side of orahole."
I work in the apps sales org and this is 100% true. The tech guys are clueless when it comes to apps. Clueless about the customers, clueless the products, and clueless about how to sell their products to apps customers. We rarely bring them into our deals because of of this, even though they continually come crying to us to include them once we have moved a deal down the pipe.
I also want to add that apps deals almost always dwarf tech deals BIG TIME. I've seen apps reps retire after closing 1 big deal. It's not all that unusual to see our deals get to millions or even 10s of millions of dollars. With that much at stake it is easy to understand why the tech guys are relegated to selling to the neckbeards in IT. It also helps explain why people like the OP know so little about this company as they continue to go chasing their minuscule cloud tech deals.
Finally, given the M.O., it's hard to see how the tech org survives much longer.