Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

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One thing I’m learning since I left. People who have progressed in their careers have good support systems that they can face challenges with together. I think about the leaders I came in contact with at oracle. I think about mgmt. I think about folks who were officers. When I look at their resumes, they did not succeed to become those roles at oracle. More often than not, it seems to have been by snaking and undercutting. I’m watching my new company’s annual kickoff and every person has achieved success at other companies and seems to be genuinely excited and really determined about their roles, goals and passions. Even more, it’s very black and white and not vague. What we want to achieve is not vague.

Part of me has had a hard time shaking off the depression at spending such a long time at oracle. I think of it like the worst relationship with the most horrible person. I will seek out therapy or mind erasure.

For any managers or officers or HR from oracle reading this….for the most part, you are 99.99% of the problem. You are hated by lots of us. You know who you are and know what you’ve done. When the time comes to confess your sins, make sure you answer when the big guy asks you “why were you so horrible?”

One thing I’ve learned is to not be like those that have been so terrible. It’s not worth it. I won’t lie. I won’t cheat. I won’t sh*t on people. I don’t believe you have to do that to get ahead but oracle mgmt seems to believe that.

I hope Oracle ends some day but I know it won’t so just forget about them and move on.

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OP here. Last poster, I couldn’t agree more. My time at Oracle drove me to bad habits (dr-gs, alcohol), I hated life, I was depressed, I felt hopeless and well, I was in a bad place. Your question is great. If I had one word to describe every manager I’ve ever worked for there it would be liar. Lying about their skills, creds, work exp, relationships, even lie about stupid stuff. My first manager was utterly pathetic. Nice guy but nice so he could push people over. In the time I was there he literally did nothing but write up customer successes with people who actually did the work. He was the lapdog for our VP and she was no different. Absolutely incompetent and pathetic. I was part of a smaller GBU and I realize these were people who really couldn’t do what they do outside the GBU but for them to act the way they did, well, I understand it now. They knew that their only way to maintain control was to minimize, demoralize, basically euthanize the talent. Looking back I wish I never went to the company that was acquired.

When I left people who have been there for 15-25 years said “this place is horrible, these managers are absolutely pathetic, you’re lucky you’re leaving, I’m surprised you stayed as long as you could, nothing happening here…”

It truly is a terrible place. People like you and I and others are here to speak the truth.

If I ever see any of the mgmt in real life, I will either give them my two cents or laugh directly in their faces as I celebrate not being there.

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Post ID: @1owt+1fqpPfrA

It has always seemed to me that the management at Oracle fail upwards. They continually fail at everything they do and yet they seem to be promoted anyway. I just don't understand what criteria is being used. I suppose everyone is just lying about what they do and the people at the top are clueless and being used by those lying upwards?

I don't know. I wasted 10 years at Oracle, glad I am out. Yes, the PTSD is real, and goes on for years. Witness those of us who are on this site with each other, long after leaving Oracle. This site has been a kind of therapy to me. It is helpful to know that others have been in the same place with me. People outside the company don't understand how destructive Oracle is to your soul.

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Post ID: @1cyk+1fqpPfrA

Absolutely amazing! Thank you for sharing. That really is awesome!

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Post ID: @1zdv+1fqpPfrA

Another quote from Marcus Aurelius that has helped me through some dark times: "A blazing fire makes flame and brightness out of everything that is thrown into it."

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Post ID: @jlw+1fqpPfrA

Whoever you are, you are inside my head. I have imposter syndrome bad. I’m at the gym at 7am every morning and don’t booze like I used to so I can have a clear mind. You are so right but I really didn’t get it til I left and “got it”. Part of me wants revenge but I know the best revenge is not being like them and moving on. Actually someone quoted Marcus Aurelius “the best revenge is to not be like your enemy.”

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Post ID: @vyc+1fqpPfrA

Post ORCL PTSD is real. It’s a nasty place that steals your soul and makes you question your skills and abilities. Like any abusive relationship. I found it took 18 - 24 months for the nightmares that I’m back at ORCL to stop and for me to lose that Imposter Syndrome feeling at my new gig.

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