What would be a good TC for a data scientist with about 4 years of experience? How is the mood in the group and growth prospects. Thank you!
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Don’t accept anything less than $150K in this market. They are dying for this skillset right now.
@1aeu+1exLa3IN More like good BK skills.
In my affiliate the DS group is a revolving door. Since they rely on IT (all outsourced and slow) and face lots of punishing bureaucracy (their manager is busy making themselves look good, not helping) productivity is low, like job satisfaction.
Base salary for an experienced hire with 4 years would be in the $140K. Total Compensation (TC) would be that + 7% 401k matching + Pension (pension is negligible unless you stay in the company 10+ years) + health. So yes 1/2 to 1/3 of what you would make in Silicon Valley.
To move up, good bj skills?
@1klj+1exLa3IN those 2 ppl are a good example of simpletons who are put in charge of data using just soft skills to get there.
Attended her data event and almost thought she was an account executive from Snowflake DB.
If XOM DS jobs were fulfilling and rewarding there wouldn't be any job openings in those roles. The reason there are openings is because people in those roles are quiting.
Post ID: @1klj+1exLa3IN - easy on the eyes tho :-0
Data science is Statistics, Operations Research, Quantitative Methods.
These are pretty mature soft sciences.
Automated computing assists this.
They work in any advanced society.
But we're talking ExxonMobil, here.
EMIT DS jobs are joke too.
If XOM DS jobs were fulfilling and rewarding people in those roles wouldn't quit, pretty big give away. HR DS jobs are equally useless.
A good TC at EM for Data Scientist would be approx 1/3-1/2 of what you’d earn at Silicon Valley.
I second everything that is being said here. Data science projects here are commodity projects that nobody truly care about and don't require any advanced degree. You could be using the most advanced ML algorithms or just plain linear regression, very few will be able to tell the difference and nobody will care.
Joining this company is committing intellectual su----e.
The EMRE data science group is three people now including GL. Have no clue what they do
Every single “real” data science person I know that was at EM has left voluntarily, most of them prior to 2020. EMIT has no idea how to employ data scientists and I’m not sure UIS or EMRE do either.
Do not come to work here unless you’re coming from a zero credibility background. XOM is a bad company for long term career now, and it’s name holds MAYBE slightly above average name recognition when searching for a job, for now. So if this is a big upgrade for your resume take it short term. But if you have offers to other big companies with brand recognition, take that offer instead.
We develop internal skills, I'd say amost (but not all) of the data scientist are self taught with webinars and online clases...
Within a few months they will give you a 'data science task' that nobody cares about - you will be marginalized.
Your manager will not care as she/he is an administrator and has no clue about your skills and what you do day-to-day... She will sweet talk you to the oblivion, she will demonstrate oustanding powerpoint skills but there will be no help for you as she has only one objective: take care of herself.
EM values one type of skill - the soft skill... Master that, learn how to make her love you and you'll be set.
So, back to data science. You'll code and analalyze, three years will pass and you'll feel you've travelled back in time. That's EM, summarized, my friend.