Thread regarding Nike Inc. layoffs

Nike employing same tactics as Microsoft.

Found this gem on Youtube. Microsoft hired temporary workers known as " Permatemps" from the early 90s to mid-90s. A group of contractors sued Microsoft and won successfully in court. The court (9th circuit) held that Microsoft was treating temporary workers in the same fashion as full-time employees and was side skirting IRS codes.

Cliff notes:

The contractor alleges he was not notified by his manager that internal positions were opening up and he was passed up for an FTE position. ( I've personally had this happen)

They dangled the carrot of "FTE positions" to contractors to trap them in a never-ending cycle of contractor work. ( sound familiar?)

Microsoft would have to pay the agency a " contingency fee" to convert them over to FTE. So they opt for the never-ending "Permatemp" stance.

Nike is literally mirroring the same tactics Microsoft did almost 30 years ago.

Video below:

https://youtu.be/Mqfemez85KY?t=62

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Post ID: @OP+1ekFxLAz

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Nobody is forcing somebody to take a job as an ETW. You know it’s temporary. If you are doing it as a means to get your foot in the door, then fine. Realize what it is, going in to the role. If you are trying to an FTE position and it doesn’t work out, then there is most likely a reason. I have seen plenty of ETW’s become FTE’s. I have seem former FTE’s happily return in an ETW position. Getting retained I either manner is often times the result of unique circumstances that are specific to your skill set, maybe a professional relationship, luck or being in the right place at the right time. Lastly, I have known many ETW’s that are well compensated and have the flexibility to self-manage including their hours.

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Post ID: @3zqo+1ekFxLAz

It's always a better to explain to a potential new employer that you left Nike after a year of being an ETW because they would not convert you rather than have to explain why you stayed at Nike for years in that same circumstance.

One thing Nike is great at is making you feel devalued as an ETW, some very obvious and others more subtle. The longer you stick it out the more likely it will wear you down.

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Post ID: @1xnb+1ekFxLAz

I can absolutely confirm this plagues the ETW folks that do the lion's share of the work the FTE force is bumbling around. It has been a topic of discussion constantly in Marketing since at least 09’. If it weren’t for operations people, there would be no tangible link between the two groups. I managed an ETW that was literally saving the company hundreds of thousands, and we still couldn't get them converted. Unfortunately, no matter how they sell it, ETW is just a job, not a Nike career waiting to blossom. Don’t let them dangle a different colored badge in front of your face for years while your colleagues get stock and PTO!

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@ @tqx+1ekFxLAz

Thanks for your response. I found out the attorney in the video above is still in practice. Not sure if he is licensed for Oregon or not. I think many here like the poster above you have this " defeatist" attitude like " what are you going to do about it" stance, I think that's the wrong attitude... Nike is way behind the times with this mentality and I think they've been riding off their reputation for years and nobody wants to challenge them. In the video above they point out that many contractors simply left or " got snatched up" by another company. Having Microsoft, Nike looks great on a resume... So Nike is in a catch-22 situation. Many will line up and look the other way just to be part of the " Swoosh life" while knowing this. Nike has a horrible reputation in the Portland area, especially with contractors.

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Post ID: @gtu+1ekFxLAz

It could be that there is enough potential gain to make it worth a law firm's time to take a class-action lawsuit on contingency. It does not hurt to consult a lawyer. Many will listen to what you have to tell them without charge if there's a potential payday in it. OP, I suggest that you go find an attorney, tell them your story, then report back any contact information/sign up information with that lawyer if they find an actionable case. If you have ETW friends that you trust, get them to contact the same attorney too. I am positive that there will be many willing to sign up.

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Post ID: @tqx+1ekFxLAz

Alright! What is your "action" plan then or do you have one? We are all familiar with this "report."

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