Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Absences ??

Call me a snowflake or whatever but does the term “absences” when referring to PAID TIME OFF bother anyone? It’s sorta like how when we’re “away” on Skype it says “inactive”. It just seems like the connotations are becoming negative for no reason.

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Post ID: @OP+1eK9zHsX

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"Absence" is just the term used in Workday. All the PTO types of things are the same as before.

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Post ID: @1tia+1eK9zHsX

@rnh+1eK9zHsX

They don’t teach anything like that in an MBA curriculum. In fact they teach the exact opposite. In B school they stress stakeholders, not stockholders, and that includes employees, the communities in which we live and work and more. Human Resources are to support and aid the employees in training, career paths etc.

None of this happens in Corporate America, at least as far as Banking, of course. So your complaint is somewhat valid. You are putting the blame on the wrong people.

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Post ID: @1irt+1eK9zHsX

Sorry but I think bigger things are wrong with this company.

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Post ID: @1tst+1eK9zHsX

It is intended to invoke emotions. Words are chosen carefully to direct a certain narrative. Why do you think we have marketing people?

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Post ID: @1ydp+1eK9zHsX

I noticed that, too. It kind of strikes me as odd phraseology.

Perhaps the developers of the software on not native English speakers? There is a strange, and weirdly negative connotation to the wording. I can't imagine them doing it that way on purpose.

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Post ID: @1tyt+1eK9zHsX

New interview question everyone will have to ask perspective employers: “Do you use Workday” If yes, can’t accept job because i don’t like the word Absence.

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Post ID: @1pdf+1eK9zHsX

Sounds like the military. You're either absent or absent without official leave. Why does any of this matter? It's just semantics.

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Post ID: @1ptn+1eK9zHsX

Absence indicates you missed being present, implying that you should always be present. This comes across as if your time is company time. The opposite is true. It's all your time, though in exchange for some it, you'll be compensated to perform services for the company.

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Post ID: @1dvs+1eK9zHsX

it's called the absence tool in workday. if you click into it you will see your precious PTO

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Post ID: @1dhr+1eK9zHsX

I agree with you OP. In fact, not only are we called employees now but if you notice the message about the wkday conversion impacting jobs…it says we aren’t accepting your application right now, like we are all looking to work in the mailroom. Why doesn’t it say something like sorry positions aren’t available? The language throughout TWs and in communications is changing to put us in out place.

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Post ID: @1fie+1eK9zHsX

I don't even know what is being asked. I've never heard of anyone refer to being absent.

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Post ID: @1buk+1eK9zHsX

I think that in certain states absence is a type of time off. When the employee takes this type of time off, they must use this code. Nothing nefarious or negative about it.

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Post ID: @1zpx+1eK9zHsX

lol, it’s literally the software. Every company that implements Workday has Absences. Ya’ll are getting upset at software and somehow blaming that on Charlie? Hilarious!

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Post ID: @rru+1eK9zHsX

We are no longer team members with planned time off. We are employees (me, specifically a p2, peon 2), and we have absences.

It’s all a part of the plan to let robots take over our jobs.

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Post ID: @ksd+1eK9zHsX

It’s all part of Schart’s playbook - changing team members to employees, changing the 401K payout to annual and now using the word absence.

I’m sure I’ve missed other changes and we haven’t seen the last of them.

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Post ID: @lno+1eK9zHsX

Agree. I felt the same way

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Post ID: @zoo+1eK9zHsX

It’s only negative if that is how you perceive it. Are you present when on PTO? No, you are absent. Unless you are on Pretend Time Off, of course :)

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Post ID: @zok+1eK9zHsX

Yes, like we are children legally obligated to attend school. They need to monitor our absences. Ridiculous.

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Post ID: @yoj+1eK9zHsX

No, it’s unexcused absences that you have to worry about.

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Post ID: @sfw+1eK9zHsX

Typical Corporate America now. They want you beholden and available 24/7. Then when you cost too much, they’ll lay you off and hire young or offshore, and they teach in MBA school that is OK so all the execs are trained that way.

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