I can’t wait to see my coworkers…….not. I’m fully expecting next week to be a ton of meetings on Microsoft Teams. Which could have happened from home.
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@hnmq, if I understand you correctly, I think I agree, but I think it works both ways. Many people like you will “feel comfortable” retuning to the office only in order to keep their job. On the other hand, there are many workers who will or have quit rather than getting the jab. These are probably in the service industry, which could explain why businesses are still having trouble filling positions.
Being told to comply or you lose your job.
I don't see an answer to the question posed by @cseh. Given that you can catch COVID from vaccinated and unvaccinated people, what need to happen for you to feel comfortable taking the mask off and/or returning to the office?
If you've ever asked yourself if you would have complied in Na-i Germany, now you know. My family is willing to stand-up for you.
@cseh+1dvQv7fA You said it about as good as one could. Too bad some people only see it the way they have been told to see it. In the end a lot of good people are going to lose their jobs because they do not want to get vaccinated. How many people do we all know that do not get the flu vaccine each year. If and when people find out there are adverse affects to them and children they need to look in the mirror and only blame themselves. I am pro-vaccine and have had three shots to date, but I am more for people being able to make their own choices. I watched a kid about 12 crying in CVS the other day as his dad made him get the shot. Sure it is a kid and he has no rights I guess, but I could not help but feel sorry for him since we all know the risk is so low for serious illness for his age group.
The Honest answer is………If you don’t want the vaccine then do us all a favor and quit.
You know you can catch COVID from someone that has been vaccinated. Even if the risk is less, it's still a risk. What are you going to do to avoid that risk? Forget about work, what about in every day life? There will always be a new variant, and so far the vaccines are proven to only provide temporary protection. Are you going to always wear a mask, which provides only a little protection, if any at all? I know many on this site like to respond with spiffy insults, but I'm really looking for an honest answer.
Why do people that contracted COVID19 have to get a test? They have antibodies in their system. Why won’t CDC gather this data/statistics for this group and share it?
I know 13 people that had been vaccinated and still contracted COVID19. Two were J&J, 6 were Moderna, and 5 were Pfizer.
Unvaccinated are testing daily. Don’t see what your issue is. If you believe in you vaccine, all is good.
Having a negative test only works if you test every day.
The unvaxxed are required to have a negative Covid test so what are you birching about?
Well put!
Unvaxxed should not be permitted inside the workplace, it’s a safety issue and I do not wish to fall ill from needlessly being potentially exposed. WFH 👨💻 is for cake eaters who desire to escape an honest day’s work, and who do not positively contribute to the company or my share value. Redundancy is the best option for those two categories of unnecessary personnel who are a drag on those of us who truly add value.
The opioid dr-g was always a controlled substance with potential for abuse but apparently people were not cautioned that it was addictive. Any doctor worth anything should have known the dr-gs were addictive. The vaccine is not really a good comparison to the opioid crisis unless you think the data were fudged and they are hiding something.
I received the vaccine, but I understand people who do not trust the FDA and these talking head doctors. Please go watch the mini-series Dopesick. It chronicles the the opioid addiction in America, and how the FDA allowed the dr-g to be labeled non-addictive so it could be pushed by Purdue Pharmacy and ruined and ki---d countless Americans. Kids to senior citizens became addicts from their doctors use of opioids. When you see things like this by big pharma and the FDA it really burns you up inside that something like that could happen in our country. This is all true and not conspiracy related. Purdue ended up settling with the govt for billions of dollars and just went bankrupt and was dissolved. People have every right not to trust the push for vaccines.
Why would they not be allowed to work? There’s no vaccine mandate and people should feel great if they got the vaccine. Unless, they are hiding under a rock, not going out anywhere in public.
The issue is whether people without the vaccine should be allowed to work for the company after next week.
Why are we still talking about the vaccine? People that wanted it, got it…. people that don’t, didn’t. People have made their decisions based on their beliefs and research. Let’s get back to work.
If the FDA approved it, it must be just fine.
FDA = Science.
CDC = More Science.
Fauci = Divine Science.
Miserable kids = what the left thinks about you and your family.
Good question. Who should I blame if my child gets sick or dies from the vaccine? You? When it comes to my children, it is all about THEM. Do a little research in the future before you make these type of comments.
If you have an unvaccinated child who ends up dying a miserable death from Covid who will you blame. Grow up everyone and realize it is not all about you when it comes to public health.
@2mmi+1dvQv7fA So why would you want mandates? After this weekend in New York they could lose 3500 Fire Fighters, and that does not even count the Police. Those two professions plus doctors, nurses, and others were on the front-lines unvaccinated for near a year. No one cared about them then as long as they were serving the public. As mentioned below if you want to get a vaccination then do so, and it should protect you from serious illness. I would not get so high and mighty about forcing others to get what you want them to. Down the road maybe it will be something you don't want.
If you don't want to be in the office then put in with HR to stay at home because you feel unsafe. Then stop going out to stores and everywhere else and only be around those vaccinated. I have been vaccinated and will not live my life in this damn political bubble anymore. Our politicians have pitted us against each other and it is like the sheep are following the master. If you have a child and they end up having an adverse reaction to the vaccine down the road then who will you blame. Our society has gotten way out of hand when it comes to judging others. All us vaccinated should stand behind those fighting for their rights to make a choice. If you don't like Texas move to one of the states that try and control their citizens like New York, California, Michigan, and so on just to name a few. I love living in a free state, but it sounds like you need to be guided through life.
The public is made up of individuals Einstein. If the health of individuals is not important, how can the health of the public be important? The group is important ONLY because it’s individual parts are important.
You are a mo--n plain and simple. The whole intent of public health is to keep the public as a group safe, not individuals.
If all the vaccinated people really trusted the science, they would know their vaccine keeps them safe, and it doesn't matter whether the people around them are vaccinated or not. Who cares.
They should mandate the vaccine for those who can medically get it. Those not complying should be canned. Shown the door. Sent packing. Pink slipped. Fired. They need to have some backbone and take a stand like some other companies operating in Texas have.
If they want to be tested then fine. I got vaccinated and it is none of my business if they don't want to. I might need them to stand behind me when the govt wants to start looking at my bank transactions. I got the vaccine to protect me from serious sickness, and hopefully stay out of the hospital. I still go out and do things, and I have no control who is at the grocery store, etc. The vaccine is not a cure as we can all see with vaccinated getting sick still. No matter who is in charge the virus is ultimately in charge no matter how or who plays politics with it. Plus, some I work with had Covid, so the anti-bodies are protecting them, and they are not vaccinated. Everyone talks about science, but won't even consider anti-bodies, so what kind of science is that. Plus, you can always quit if you don't want to be around unvaccinated people, but then I hope you stay out of stores and any other public places.
How do you feel about unvaccinated co-workers? Do you feel safe around them even though they are testing on a daily basis?
Trying to ease into being surround by people again. I live alone and it has been heaven not having to deal with chit chat/gossip and being able to just work quietly (or let's face it, take naps). It's going to be a huge adjustment.
Why would you sit behind a closed door? What are you afraid of? This are serious questions.
There are tax implications (penalties) if they don't have a certain headcount in office. At this point, I'll go sit behind my closed door for 10 hours if it means I still have a job / don't have to change job location.
Sounds like some people really like their soap operas.
@kuz Why would anyone pretend to work at Oxy? That's like pretending to have sy-----s and telling all your friends.
@xax- Still pretending you work here?
Some may have to delay the start of happy hour.
I guess I am OK with going back to the office, but can somebody tell me how to record all my favorite daytime shows that I’m going to be missing? I hope I don’t fall asleep at my desk after lunch since I’m used to taking a two-hour nap.
not going to lie, I am so used to working from home now. Not trying to board the " I only want to work from home" train but it will be hard to be in an office for 9 hours again.
There is NO vaccine Mandate
That is right. The statement made was that there is a vaccine mandate, and that is wrong. Anyone that does not want the vaccine can test.