Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

QA employees in India provided formal Automation Training, but US based manual testers are on their own with Pluralsight.

Saul said that there is no career for QA folks in WF but those in the US are being laid off or told to learn automation on their own while formal training including in-house training are provided to manual testers in India.

This is not made up as Saul himself admitted it.

One more boost to moral. Yeah yeah, I know....find another job.

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@1yws They meant resources as in people, given the context of employable skills statement. The gist is that we have the people, the training resources, the opportunity, but we're culturally drawn to things other than working towards marketable employment, such as software engineering.

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Post ID: @1dra+1cQzuRd4

@1dyv not sure how you meant this, but the statement we "have all the resources we'd ever need in the USA" is patently wrong.

If you're talking people and knowledge, what happens if some new revolutionary technology is discovered in another country, but because of white replacement fear we don't exchange knowledge and become slow to adopt it, falling behind the rest of the world? Look at how many businesses in America are owned or run by immigrants.

If you're talking resources as in anything we need or use to support people, that's the most indefensible statement ever. For batteries alone, the USA lacks production capacity for 14 of the required ingredients. Imagine life without batteries. No phones, no push-button/turn-key engine starts.

We most definitely do not have everything we need. Even if we did, we'd still be trading with the world because that's how the planet works.

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Post ID: @1yws+1cQzuRd4

What happened is the young folks saw their parents lose their jobs to India so they are avoiding tech like the plague to have an actual career that they can continue, like in the medical field. You can’t outsource medical (though you can doctor on Skype)

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Post ID: @1min+1cQzuRd4

Don't hate the player, hate the game. We have all the resources we'd ever need in the USA, but folks are more interested in being TikTok stars and influencers than getting employable skills.

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Post ID: @1mpw+1cQzuRd4

I have said this for years since Bush exploded the number of H1Bs issued. It was originally supposed to be for special cases until the lobbyists got it increased several fold for this scheme.

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Post ID: @1pxj+1cQzuRd4

“partners in India”: the terminology around here is laughable. More WFC smoke and mirrors, attempting to put a favorable spin on the dirty business of offshoring American jobs.

Every American who initiates, perpetuates and supports offshoring American jobs deserves to be fired and never find work within the United States again. They are traitors to their own country.

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Post ID: @zmy+1cQzuRd4

They did NOTHING to support this statement but rather used it as an excuse to lay off a lot of good people.

As someone said above, now they realize those people were important and trying to hire them back. Good luck with that. I know what I would tell them. Nationwide and Chase tried that several times over the years as well and it went over like a lead balloon.

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Post ID: @1ife+1cQzuRd4

It's okay to be angry at Wells' outsourcing of jobs, but don't blame the folks in India, and don't think it's about race. Indians can't "take" jobs that aren't offered to them, and Wells isn't hiring in India due to race. It's all about the Benjamins.

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Post ID: @1zbv+1cQzuRd4

https://youtu.be/d-diB65scQU

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Post ID: @1mrk+1cQzuRd4

i thought they laid off all employees with the QA job title already? They are trying to re-hire some of them back as non-exempt employees (but only as a lateral job change, so no increase in salary)

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Post ID: @1jqt+1cQzuRd4

@kvi+1cQzuRd4 lol if you think they're spending money in India. The reason we have partners I'm India is specifically because we don't have to pay much of anything there.

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Post ID: @1aex+1cQzuRd4

Indian's - money is unlimited, you're the hero, executive p-m p-m's extended rah rah rah

American's - you're evil if you worked here a while, your dirt, we want you gone, maybe we're not sure not enough information, but we don't like paying you so we'll treat you sh1t until we know for sure

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Post ID: @kvi+1cQzuRd4

pretty crass on his part, sounds like discrimination

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Post ID: @edb+1cQzuRd4

They've been pretty public about the plan for manual QA roles for a couple years now. Anyone in QA not pivoting to a modern role is insane to have been ignoring this for so long.

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Post ID: @xsy+1cQzuRd4

Yes, and did you catch was he said: "We are transitioning them to become software engineers." So if you can't morph into a software engineer soon, ugh oh...

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