Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

My manager said those that got the relo or you're fired letter before the Vid (call it what it is cuz ya'll ain't ever coming back) is still valid. She just can't tell us when the expected date of exe cu tion will be. Peace be with ya'll. This place is no Disneyland, more like Freddy Krueger's Castle

Our dept was RECENTLY told they have 60 days to decide if they want to report to a hub or take severance. They have to pay to move themselves.

I'm WFH in the SoCal area. Apparently there are no "major hubs" down this way but there are many office locations. The office I was assigned for MAC mail when I first started is 38 miles from where I used to live. I moved a year ago and am now well over 40 miles away. Not sure if that is the kind of metric they're looking for in terms of RTO, hub locations, and all that nonsense.
In either case, I have a new job opportunity on the table and, assuming it pans out, none of that will matter. And I'll have done WF a wonderful favor by being one less employee who they potentially would have had to pay severance out to. Good riddance I suppose... lol

If the resultant commute is greater than 40 miles yes you can be laid off. This happened to me the first time I worked at Wells. 60 miles is insane.

My local campus closed during the pandemic, and our hub is more than 40 miles away. I've been told I'm fine for now, but for the life of me I can't understand, for team members in similar situations, why they don't just put our minds at ease and either tell us we're safe indefinitely or tell us now our services are no longer required.

The lack of communication enrages me. It's not like our situations are going to change -- there is literally nowhere to go. Do they not have plans (I don't mean this cynically but seriously)? Or are they purposefully trying to create angst amongst their own employees, hoping we'll bail, exhausted from uncertainty, before they have to act? Or is it something else altogether?

Do you know which month you will likely have to go back? (Nov? Dec? Jan?"

I believe it is the delta between the distance between your house and old location and your house and new location.

It's in the handbook.

Fro is a hoax

That just perpetuates the myth that promotions or internal job offerings are available.

This is where careers go to stagnate

benefits book, pg 16-5

My area has been told if we are more than 40 miles from a hub, we could continue to work remotely....for now. Not sure if that means future layoffs for those further out than 40 miles. We have also been told that if you are outside the 40 mile range and continue to work remotely, you will not be considered for any other jobs in the future.

This is also true for Los Angeles:

"For us 60 miles in 3 hours at rush hour would be a crazy fast commute"

@ghh+1cOKdWfD

You must not be familiar with major city traffic problems. I live in Atlanta and a 15-20 mile morning commute typically takes about an hour and a half. For us 60 miles in 3 hours at rush hour would be a crazy fast commute.

Being “invited” back is so condescending. It’s not something we can politely decline. I heard Hagerman use that exact term, so I know it’s legit.

How about being forthright and state what it is: Mandatory RTO Date.

I’m going to guess you are in one of our Phoenix buildings, because I’ve heard several coworkers there make that statement. We’ve got a similar problem in the Twin Cities with buildings spread all over. I am dreading finding out where I will be assigned. Few good commute options.

Make it too inconvenient, I’ll become a clock watcher … in and out at the precise minute, legal breaks (I never take lunch, but will), minimal work effort. Extended trips to the Covid Cooler, hiding our disdain for each other and management by giving platitudes about how much we GAS. And we slowly wither in the vine.

Yea @ghh+1cOKdWfD helicopter maybe, that's not the point.

I don't know how best you might start the conversation, but your location moving more than 40 miles away is considered a material change to your job, per the company's own policies. If you're comfortable, consider asking your manager what this might mean for you -- it's a very reasonable thing to be concerned about. If they tell you they don't have a definitive answer for you at this time, considering the hub city approach has been in the works for many, many months, I'd start preparing my resume. I don't want to alarm you, but I do want you to feel empowered and prepared.

There are surely much better transportation options that would take a lot less than three hours to go sixty miles.

It is true and can be found in the benefits book.

What you heard was true at one time. I don’t know for sure if it is still true, but I haven’t heard that it’s changed.