If you’re from the Clinton site you already know what’s happening, if you’re not, long story short, there’s a new swimming pool in the basement. Is this the final nail in the Clinton coffin? YL is probably hyperventilating thinking of repair costs and the site was in the sh----r already.
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Yes NJRSC was a disaster, and the safety vest annuitants made a lot of money, funny how those involved got promoted, flooded into PA. Shameful.
you have to come here to have this explained to you? lol
Thanks, @31cm. That does make sense.
Any other insights, folks?
Last poster - you got it right.
Chemicals made its best profits, proportionally, in the last year.
It can be sold - now - for an incredible amount of money.
This can allow the Execs to pocket their wads and walk away clean.
Lubes and Specialties - sold in bits and pieces later.
Then EM will do what it has always done best - pump that crude into the clay pits.
I know this site is for venting, but would like to at least make some sense out of it. I got really puzzled when people comment about selling the Chemical Company. Please enlight me, why? Chemical is making good profits typically and as a matter of fact it just made record profit last quarter. Downstream is almost always losing money regardless. Why not just get rid of Downstream and keep only Upstream and Chemical? Am I missing something here?
I know it's hard to find takers for the refineries, but that's a separate subject. Anything can sell if priced right
Ha talented self-made planners here! Should apply positions at the CSP grp.
Seems like a done deal, then.
Clinton is closing down and likely little R&D going forward anywhere else.
Once Chemicals is sold off, we've got a tight little company.
Close Clinton and Dallas office...Move 20% to houston, move 20% to manufacturing sites move 20% to BSC and PIP the rest.
took a few whacks, but you hit the nail on the head. CLN’s yearly budget is like drilling a few wells for upstream. the one knob you could turn was new tech, but the union has chosen to die on the sword of contracting out non-core positions. pretty certain this was based on an employee’s spouse not getting a job in the stockroom.
To all those posting that Clinton is “not the center of the universe for EM”, or that “the cost of clean-up and repairs is nothing to EM” - that’s the whole point ! The company is so big that no staff move or site closure can be regarded as “too expensive”.
EM’s operating budget is so vast that it’s not inconceivable that they could announce the closure of the Clinton site at the end of the year, move the Algae and CCS staff to the campus along with Base Stocks and Process MPT’s (or they could go to BR). To be honest, the Fuels & Lubes Product Development could simply be farmed out to Additive Suppliers and contract labs (some of it is already).
With the end of the R&D tax exemption coming soon, the trouble with the Union contract negotiations, the lower head count and reduced funding coming, it would be very easy for someone high up to say that it just isn’t coat-effective to run the Clinton site anymore. Especially when you consider how little it actually delivers to the business. Don’t forget that egos come into it at those lofty CL’s too.
In the 1990’s, Mobil closed its lab in Princeton and moved its staff to Paulsboro.
In the mid-1990’s, Exxon closed its management and engineering facility in Florham Park, with many people retiring or moving elsewhere.
In 1998, Exxon moved its Fuels R&D to the UK (and its Lubes to Canada), just so that it could close the Linden site without having to deal with the Union. A few high paid Researchers were paid very well to take temporary assignments to the the UK and Canada. The Linden site is still there, unsold, with (I think) a few people still using the office space.
In 2000, EM closed its UK lab, moving about 25 people to Paulsboro, transferring a few others and making the remaining 400 or so redundant. Most of the 25 left the company and went back to the UK. The Abingdon site is still there - most of the buildings have been demolished, but it remains unsold.
Before the merger, Esso UK had moved all of its engineering functions from Leatherhead to Fawley. This was an expensive exercise for the company and risked losing a lot of good staff because of concerns about spousal careers and schools. The company assured the engineers that the move would be permanent and their families wouldn’t have further disruption. Within a year of the merger, it was announced that all engineering functions were being transferred back to Leatherhead. They lost a lot of engineers.
In the 2010’s, EM sold its facility in Fairfax. Again, many people relocated but I think even more left the company. At least the company managed to sell the site.
Then in 2018, the company closed the Paulsboro site, moving many people (with generous relocation packages) to Clinton. A few even moved closer to New York before retiring as soon as they didn’t need to pay back the relocation allowance (really screwing the company). The Paulsboro site remains unsold and the result of that move (NJRSC) was an unmitigated disaster for the Fuels & Lubes Product Development groups
The point of all this is to show that the company can waste millions on pointless projects and staff changes and it doesn’t affect the bottom line.
While all this is happening, Corporate Strategic Research (CSR) losers are continuing to write useless email and set up worthless meetings.
In between meetings, our dirty, worthless, re--rded researchers are trying to figure out whose work should they steal and take credit from.
"Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself". Let the sinking ship run its full course.
Yuk is f-k.
if the company can rebuild a refinery after a hurricane, they can probably take care of a little dampness in your basement. get over yourselves, you aren’t the center of the EM universe.
Swamping the Central Plant is a big time mess up. There is no way we are back before the 13th, probably the 20th or longer. I booked a trip, I'm going on free vacation for a week. Thanks Yuk!
Mr. Talley where are you clean house! Yuk, and Syrup are useless. Oh and the department and group head in PPLE. Both in a coma, Break the pattern, I know of a section head there now that has a pair and needs to be put in Yuk’s position. Could really help the site. Yuk, copy paper and donuts didn’t save us. What a joke....This site can’t survive. You should a took the lump....
YL has no clue how to run a research organization. Her strict compliance with overbearing procedures and processes is an innovation ki---r and is very demotivating. basically a serial ki---r of hopes and dreams. The exxonmobil kool aid runs through her veins, can’t help but be a dumpster fire at all times….
@1aho+1cBNwGHj How about "Never"? Everyone will be better somewhere else.
Is there any coincidence - the Union ruling and a flooded basement?
Not to mention the repavement - YL's greatest pride - falling to pieces already?
Has anyone ever watched the film 'Save the Tiger'?
Fellow Clinton employee here, thoughts on when we’ll be cleared to return? Tired of just getting the daily update of “closed tomorrow”.
YL has a senior advisory council. She "fired" the most senior council member (40+ years with EM) because she doesn't like his advice. Cursed be EM's winning culture - kissing a-s.
Ever since YL came to RDSS (or R&D Op cr-p), constantly drove to cut cost (many essential) and do more with less. Then, reduction of head counts since Cov*d. Hope she had all the savings stashed somewhere. Time to use it. Feel almost like she's got a crystal ball years back. Karma. LOL
Repair cost is nothing to Exxon. They can get the equipment to replace it. It is more so of time to get the site back online that will cost them. The time it will take to cleanup (drain), time to get the replacement equipments and parts damaged by the water, and time to test and verify all is good to go. I would say 2 weeks minimum (depending on what got damaged)
All operations at EMRE have stopped and all employees are at home until futher notice. Meaning whatever research is in backlogged until the site is open (and no overtime to compensate the backlog and worker attrition issue)
Yuk is sure winning a lot. She lost the union/contractor ruling and the flood at central plant. When will the higher up PIP her