When did we become a yes-man and yes-woman company? When did disagreeing with anybody in the management on ANYTHING become something that could endanger your job and fast-track your name on the layoff list? When did new ideas become undesirable and met with hostility?
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Not to be unwise, but it’s a cultural thing brought to bear by the Indian management chain. They learned this odd behavior from their class system and the British military rule.
Unfortunately the corruption is deep and ingrained.
My managers at Oracle were decent, nice guys, but had no backbone. When confronted in meetings they would just keep their mouths shut. Not once did they back their underlinings. I spoke with them in private and was told “that’s the way it is”.
Raises and reviews they also admitted were a joke.
I think it happened slowly. Corruption crept into the management, first in one area, then another. The better people then slowly leave. They usually wait around a bit to see if it will get better, or try working for someone else for a while. I worked for 3 managers, all corrupt, all playing tricks on their employees, all lying about me behind my back, giving credit to their suckups for work I did. ALL OF THEM!
Slowly the corruption spreads, monkey see, monkey do as the HR lady said. Managers look for easier ways to get their bonuses and raises and it turns out lying, cheating and stealing are easier than doing actual work.
I think it would have helped if the upper management actually did something, held lower manager's feet to the fire for not getting work done or not working well with other managers. They weren't even paying attention to doing reviews. I suppose they just said to the lower level managers that the ones they didn't want, just don't bother giving them reviews. But, I was the one doing the work and was being cheated that way. Manager reviews their suckups and says they are doing the work I am doing, I guess.
The only way to do things right is to actually follow all the rules. If someone is doing a bad job, that should be documented and they should be fired. Most of the management is now in the situation where I believe they should all be fired. Once the management becomes corrupt like that, you have the wrong people making the decisions about who they want and they want the people who will lie with them, not the people doing actual work. Stupidity has to be part of that, but it's also a short-term mindset among the management.
"I can make this work for a few more months" should be Oracle's new motto. I honestly wonder if that is how LE sees it. Just a few more months probably make him a couple billion dollars. No point in actually really running the company. Just let it go to sh-t, I guess.
Mark Hurd especially
I third and fourth it. I joined via an acquisition in 2007 and the people in my unit are robots programmed to agree with whatever the rats at the top say. The ones with the Botox and bowl cuts. Hahahahah. It makes me laugh cause everyone knows it sucks here.
It's been that way for more than a decade. I agree with @mwi+1benN0gJ -- "It was absolutely like that when I joined in 2009 and just got worse during the co-CEO era."
That's 100% true. It's been like that for a long time, and definitely got worse after 2010 -- the co-CEO-era..
June 1977
It was absolutely like that when I joined in 2009
I will second this.
It was absolutely like that when I joined in 2009 and just got worse during the co-CEO era.