(Tech/ICS)
Are you noticing a lot more people recently are asking salary questions the first time you talk to them? I kind of like not wasting my time with endless Zoom screens before we get to brass tacks, but this seems new. The remote/commute conversation comes up on the first call as well. It’s like nobody has time to waste dancing around.
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I wasn’t understanding because I was using “interviewing” to mean “I am a WF employee talking to outside hiring managers about working outside Wells Fargo”.
@1hqw+1bdg8VtX, how do you not understand there are mass layoffs in these departments going on? Why are you hiring external?
You only need to move people from another group into yours and save one job at a time.
Sorry if this sounded like Rocket science, but its really that easy
@ xqr+1bdg8VtX
I do not understand your question.
I am fine if you want to troll, you’re bored, it’s the weekend, but you need to at least try and make sense.
People have an expectation of what they want from a job. If a $ amount is important with little or no flexibility, or if working from home is important, then why go through three hours of interviews to find out you'll be paid 80% of your current wage, and you're expected to drive into an office five days a week? If those benefits are unmovable, get it out of the way upfront and move on to something that better fits.
why are you interviewing as they are canning people in Tech and ICS? Seems like they should just move the lazy people to your group , no interview required as its the same company
I have no problem giving them my current base. It usually saves me time since recruiters are often looking for someone about 25% cheaper. I leave negotiating what I'd accept for an offer.
Agree with @roa, this usually comes up in the screener and I hold firm on not saying. They usually explain that they don't want to waste my time if we're really far apart on money blah blah blah. I say I'd rather not say a number before I understand the role better. If pushed, I encourage them to share their range with me, since it would appear that they have a number in mind.
Once or twice a recruiter absolutely refused to continue the conversation until I gave them a figure, which was a red flag for me. I gave them a super broad range just so we could move on.
yah pay sucks here, i just give that response
firms no longer ask salary history since that's been outlawed in several states. Too complicated to keep track of and stay compliant, so it's been done away with.
So instead they ask about your "expectations". There is virtually no way it turns out well for you, the candidate, if you actually give them a number or even a range. The answer should be something along the lines of: I expect to be paid fairly for the value I will contribute, assuming we have mutual interest. If you'd like to tell me the range or target you are working with, I won't waste your time if that's not in line with what I would consider"
Doesn't that conversation occur with HR before interviews?