XOM has faults - every company does but I see posts criticizing the company by former/current employees and while I can understand the former it’s the latter that has me puzzled. You get paid well just as I do yes? You get health insurance just like I do. And you are given a pension plan like everyone else. Yet here you are blasting a company that HELPED you pay for that house you live in, that truck you drive and other essentials. Show a little bit of loyalty.
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I will loyally ride this donkey as far as it will take me! (when it dies, I'll get a new donkey)
LOL typical boomer mentality "keep your head down, bow to the corporate overlords, and consume consume consume"
I made $107k left the company for 75k plus performance bonuses. My budget is very similar. New employer pays 100% of health care costs for my entire family. They treat people like human beings. They cater lunches twice a week, and I'm not stressed out constantly. They don't play games with me, and I'm respected and appreciated.
At the end of the day, there's more than just a 401k and a pension.
How you treat people matters.
I had to take medical leave from XOM, and I was vilified. At the new company, my wife needs surgery, and they were very supportive.
I couldn't be induced to work for Exxon again.
Great points OP...but you are dead wrong!
I was looking for a brownnoser and a snitcher combined, OOps I founf it!
@OP GFY
@OP How much do you make?
Hey OP, are you an executive? Your post is BS and out of touch.
I use to be one of the people that never understand when someone would say they gave everything to the company. I thought it was strange someone would say that , because the company did pay you.
I do not think that way anymore.It’s not about the company, it’s about how the leadership treats employees.Typically everyone can bounce back from being let go , but it’s how they’re going about.
it that makes people angry.
I use to also be one of those people that judged a person that got laid off or fired. Maybe if they had gave 100% they would still have a job. My outlook on that changed as well.
No Sir, this company has lost its way and lost the loyalty of its employees. I know, I’ve been around for 30 years and never seen it this bad, The morale, the bad managers, bad business decisions, lacking behind all of the others in so many areas, there is plenty not to be happy about compared to the way things used to be my friend. That is why I’m so disappointed in current “leadership”, they are sinking the humanity of the company.
OP, the only interesting question is if in your case we’re dealing with a natural lack of intelligence, strict self-interest or brainwashing at pathological levels. You seem to be totally oblivious to the fact that no company gives all the things that you mention as freebies; employees work for them. In the case of the pension, the company forces people to retire early through fake ranking and thus breaks not only its promises but the law as well. Somehow you don’t sound like an individual technical contributor but rather like a member of that self-perpetuating, self-serving mafia called management.
Is this the guy that had the audacity to say work flex works because he can watch his kids golf? Or the other id--t who said workflex works because he can host play dates for his kid thereby missing the point of a hybrid model?
Don’t think it could be Darren, he doesn’t even write his own speeches let alone a post.
OP is someone who has probably signed up for cheap worthless online leadership Courses at places like Stanford, Harvard etc., touts worthless cr-p on LinkedIn and is hoping he/she will become a low levels manager someday.
Do something real mo-o
If you want loyalty, get a dog. I’m nobody’s dog.
OP is full on Uncle Tom on this one.
Let me stop you right there before you make a bigger fool of yourself. The company didn’t help me with sh-t, I work my a-s off every damn day and they milk us for all we’re worth now that we’re down by more than 20% from where we were a year ago. Work hasn’t gone down proportionally to those that were let go, so no - we don’t have to be grateful because the dice rolled in our favor.
So people are not allowed to criticize their Company and push for change? ExxonMobil has a horrible culture, one of the worst in the industry, and the generic statement behind your post is "because we pay you, you shouldn't complain."
I am a past employee who took a massive raise to leave ExxonMobil, and was also a HIPO (i.e. the poster child for someone who shouldn't be complaining), but I voiced my concerns when I was an employee to see if I could help facilitate change because I saw age discrimination and lies about why people were put on PIP. I knew that eventually my day would come where I wasn't the top player anymore as I saw it happen to many old timers who now can't find work. I posted on public forums to let employees (current and future) know what the culture is like.
You have employees who are going through major depression & burn-out, and your default answer is to be grateful you get a paycheck; people like you embody what is wrong with ExxonMobil and will contribute towards its already steep spiral down.
Why don't you reflect on yourself about why so many employees at ExxonMobil feel this way and why our market cap dropped to almost a 1/2 since its peak in the early 2000's inflation. Why don't you reflect on why there is no extensive posting on layoff.com/facebook or layoff.com/google with people blasting the Company, even though they have higher headcount than us.
It’s past 3am for me now and I’m waiting for a colleague in the US to give me a reply so that I can send out a time critical email. I’m not doing shift work, my hours are regular office hours but I have to work these hours every so often.
I’m in an unnamed support function that everyone jeers at. I don’t get pension in my country and I’m paid less than $90k, 15 years with the company with middle ranking. The company pays me a salary, I do my job to the best of my ability, including staying up to for this task.
Am I well paid? Nah.
The company doesn’t need or deserve loyalty from me; I don’t owe it anything too
OP, may I ask how much you get paid so that I can answer your first question about whether or not I get paid as well as you do? If you need me to go first, I make around $90k. Is that how much you make? Or did you just make a blind assumption that we are all compensated equally?
In an at will state like Texas, the company can get rid of employees at the drop of a hat without cause. The only reason EM hasn’t gone that route is because of the increased liability risk, and a 3 month PIL chosen by an employee over a PIP makes it the employee’s decision.
Loyalty goes both ways. Mine might return if the company shows some loyalty first.
OP seems to be DW or one of his minions. So what you are saying is the same hands that is feeding us in return for us trading our time and productivity should be also allowed to abuse us, ra-e us, and then throw us away to die? Is that what you are inferring here? If so, tell your bosses not to ever say again that people are our best assets and we care about them. Then just be honest and say it is all business, people or robots doing work we dont care.
No offense... Maybe we just aren't lemmings. Giving me $ today, while planning my exit tomorrow, doesn't buy my loyalty.
No.